Vanagon fire at gas station - Portland OR

atomatom · Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:27 am Post subject:

something like this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/2xPCS-1-8-4mm-Inline-Check...1923204505
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imdbui · Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:54 am Post subject:

david2676 · Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:03 am Post subject: every time I see this !

When I see these photos it makes me want to write in a fuel and power cut off. has anyone down this. Seems like it would be simple enough to wire in a switch that would cut fuel and power.

I guess the other issue is having a correct sized fire extigusher
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danfromsyr · Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:08 am Post subject:

I've seen many vans with melted AC wiring in the back corner

and melted Alternator to blackbox to starter harnesses.. which runs right over the 2 fuel lines..
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BavarianWrench · Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:28 am Post subject:

I hate seeing burned vans. My sympathies to the owner. A Syncro with the plastic fuel cell right above the back of the engine is a risky vehicle. I can only imagine trying to contain that fire once the fuel cell wall was compromised. The crew at the gas station were brave or ignorant. Getting burned is a horrible thing. Damaging your lungs fighting a fire is just as bad if not worse. I'm grateful nobody was injured. As Vanagon owners, it is your responsibility to make your vehicle safe. It protects you, people around you, the environment (could make one hell of forrest fire), and lastly your investment. Maintain your fuel systems, and purchase quality clamps that match your fuel lines! I have seen many a clamp improperly sized making it an oval instead of round. I have also seen cheap clamps overtightened cutting into, and compromising the hose. If you do not have experience with fuel lines or clamping rubber please feel free to reach out for some mentoring. I will help as will many on this forum. If you are doubtful, it is truly best to have somebody with experience show you, or check your work. Tightening clamps is a feel as well as visual task. I've been a professional tech and had a learning curve in my youth. Fortunately it was on coolant lines and caused no damage. Just a little coolant on the garage floor and the dog didn't lick it up. Lets Just have the event Burning Van and no more actual burning vans!

furrylittleotter · Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:07 pm Post subject:

levi · Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:01 pm Post subject:

levi · Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:16 pm Post subject:

jackbombay · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:13 am Post subject:

Merian · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:25 am Post subject:

the modern hoses work just fine on E-85

if you want to use the same feedstock as fuelie dragsters, you need to spend the money they do

IdahoDoug · Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 10:23 am Post subject:

Bavarian,

You are a prescient thinker! Look what greeted me in the local paper at breakfast today:

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1987 2WD Wolfsburg Vanagon Weekender "Mango", two fully locked 80 Series LandCruisers. 2017 Subaru Outback boxer. 1990 Audi 90 Quattro 20V with rear locking differential, 1990 burgundy parts Vanagon. 1984 Porsche 944, 1988 Toyota Supra 5 speed targa, 2002 BMW 325iX, 1982 Toyota Sunrader

kamzcab86 · Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:06 pm Post subject:

Merian · Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:11 pm Post subject:

so, is it legally Reckless to drive a Vanagon on the road in dry areas?

IdahoDoug · Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:25 pm Post subject:

About 20 years ago, a couple in a large RV towing a vehicle drove across Idaho on the 90. The towed vehicle had the parking brake on or something and various motorists later reported honking and pointing rearward, but the driver did not acknowledge and pull over. It was smoking. Eventually, things began to overheat and shed burning rubber and sparks and still the guy drove on - oblivious to the now dozens of honking drivers. The police were called. Finally the towed car caught fire, or they stopped for gas or something - can't recall how they finally discovered it. But they started dozens of brush fires along the freeway and Idaho billed their insurance company in the million dollar range for the damage and the emergency responders spread out over a multi county area.

It sounds like the folks in this tan Westy will not have enormous liability, as they did not act negligently, etc. But it has been in the news this year with a lot of Western communities that everybody is on clear notice that no fireworks are allowed, and no campfires or burning of ANY kind until further notice. So with things on edge, dryness and heat at record levels, someone starting a fire under this condition will surely be prosecuted. Everyone is tense. I saw the county's mass disaster response vehicles staged out on a couple side roads yesterday on my jog. I have never seen them out before.

Everyone have a safe 4th of July. And change those fuel lines!!!

Doug
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1987 2WD Wolfsburg Vanagon Weekender "Mango", two fully locked 80 Series LandCruisers. 2017 Subaru Outback boxer. 1990 Audi 90 Quattro 20V with rear locking differential, 1990 burgundy parts Vanagon. 1984 Porsche 944, 1988 Toyota Supra 5 speed targa, 2002 BMW 325iX, 1982 Toyota Sunrader

MsTaboo · Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 2:11 pm Post subject:

Wildthings · Samba Member Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50348

Trailer cause fires are all to common. It is hard to realize that something odd is going on back under the trailer until sparks are flying. On I-84 to the east of us they get many trailer caused fires each year along the highway.

Sodo · Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 2:55 pm Post subject:


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