oil leak

stevampire · Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:36 pm Post subject: oil leak

i have an oil leak that appears to be from my oil cooler. i have replaced the cooler and the seals but it is still leaking. i just rebuilt the motor but cant run it since it spits all my oil out in a matter of minutes. can someone please help me figure out what my problem is and how to fix it? i think i am missing the plate under the cooler, could that be my problem? would it be wrong seals? i tried two different seals. did i possibly over tighten the bolts or not tighten them enough?

also, this oil cooler doesnt have the foam. i read somewhere that it is to direct more of the air through the cooler. do i need to put something up there to re-direct the air or is it fine without it?

i would really appreciate and love quick responses, i've been waiting waaay to long to drive my square. thanks in advanced.

K1mech · Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:07 am Post subject: oil leak

I had the same problem with an oil leak under the oil cooler, there are some types of oil coolers that do not require the use of spacers where the bolts go through, check and see if the oil cooler has a raised boss about equal to the edge of the rolled lip on the oil cooler, if it does then you probably do not need the spacers.

4everflat4 · Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:22 pm Post subject:

Too much oil pressure maybe? Did you remove the oil pressure plunger and spring and clean the oil galleys before rebuilding the engine? There could be a bunch of gunk blocking the oil galleys and causing your oil pressure to be way too high...that can blow out an oil cooler really quick.

Kevin

Russ Wolfe · Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:17 pm Post subject:

There are 3 different possible oil cooler seals that you should be using.
Depending on the cooler/case combination you have.
VW used 2 different size cooler oil passages.
There are the early, with the 8mm passage.
There are the later, with the 10mm passages.
Depending on what case you have, and what cooler you have, what set of seals you use. The gasket set only comes with 2 of the 3 possible seals. The 3rd set, you have to buy seperately.
We need to know which case and cooler combo you have.
IIRC, air_cooled_nut has a how-to someplace on his web site for the info you need.
Also, check the archives at vwtype3.org as Jim Adney wrote up a how-to on this.
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stevampire · Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 4:19 am Post subject:

i have a later model case and cooler. i tried two different 10mm seals today. one was thicker one was thinner. both still blew oil. im goin crazy here.

Russ Wolfe · Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:17 pm Post subject:

If you are sure you have a late cooler, and late case, (10mm holes in bothe) then you use the large thin seals in the gasket set. And you use NO washers between the case and the cooler.
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bent_karma · Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 1:10 pm Post subject: same issue

hi guys hopefully someone is online so they can help me out I recently rebuilt my engine and when I first started it oil started coming out same as the first post described it I took some pictures of how I had it set up and I'm just wondering which oil seal to use and if I have a late oil cooler Thanks

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Bobnotch · Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 5:48 pm Post subject:

Looks like you have both a late case, and a late cooler. But, it would have been better to see the case without the seals you used. Wink

Those seals also look like the thick ones too. See if you can find the thinner set (in the gasket kit), and then remove the spacers and install the cooler again.
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KTPhil · Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 9:33 am Post subject: Re: same issue

blues90 · Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: same issue

bent_karma · Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 3:27 pm Post subject: New oil leak coming from head

Hey thanks a lot about the oil cooler question I had that issue is fixed. Now I have this other little problem on the driver side head. I was reading this thread
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=567493&highlight=head+oil+leak
This is causing a lot of oil spillage and the owner of my household is not appreciating it. Here's a video.https://goo.gl/photos/nyWiPXBvCA9YcovG9
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'06 Nissan Sentra 1.8 S (gone at the moment) sold
'18 Subaru Forester 2.5i [Sue Bee]

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bent_karma · Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:13 am Post subject:

I recently found out that if oil is coming out of the valve covers it might be that the covers are bent or gaskets are no good? I'm using the plastic cork looking onea. Anyone had any issues with those?
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'06 Nissan Sentra 1.8 S (gone at the moment) sold
'18 Subaru Forester 2.5i [Sue Bee]

"Water is for drinking"

Bobnotch · Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:22 am Post subject:

W1K1 · Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:27 am Post subject:

are the bales tight when you clip them on?
do you seal the gaskets to the valve cover?
is there an impression in the gasket from where the gasket has been sitting against the head?

I change gaskets every 3-4 years and do a couple valve adjustments a year with the cork/rubber gaskets. I use loctite 518 to stick the gaskets to the valve cover, no leaks.
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bent_karma · Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:16 am Post subject:

Thanks bobnotch and w1k1 yes I did glue the gasket with side cover using the Permatex that I used to gluv case together you may possibly valve covers are worn or dented maybe putting Loctite instead of Permatex I usually take out the valve cover clips using a rag and just pull down I'll take a pic of the covers today.
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'18 Subaru Forester 2.5i [Sue Bee]

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