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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 2:34 pm    Post subject: Loud, high-pitched whine! Reply with quote

Weird as hell! It starts once the engine is warm. Sounds like it's coming from the front of the plenum. When you punch the accelerator it goes away momentarily, so I'm sure it's some kind of vacuum leak. I've taken everything off to the plenum - air cleaner, all the hoses, etc - and then started the engine, and the whine is still there. Everything looks good and feels rock-solid tight. Where oh where is that shrieking whine coming from?

Oh yeah, this is my 1971 411 wagon with D-tronic FI
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check the o-ing between the TB and the plenum. Also check the, cork gasket at the oil breather. Ray
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check the manifold pressir sensor (MPS) for air tightness....I had a similar noise once and it was a crack in the MPS membran.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooooooh...yeah...great suggestion. I have only had that happen once a long time ago.its a strange sound.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

is that the thing mounted over in the left side of the engine compartment?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kirk knighton wrote:
is that the thing mounted over in the left side of the engine compartment?


Yes!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try sucking where the hose attaches to it...should be 100% air tight....or listen if this is where the noise comes from

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay, it's not that then. The noise is definitely coming from the area of the throttle body/plenum. I've taken off the boot to the TB and now it sits naked and open. And still the whine! Which goes away as you punch the gas pedal. All the screws are tight; nothing feels loose. Do I need to remove the throttle body? Is this hard to do?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Check the o-ing between the TB and the plenum.


On that note... any suggestions where to buy one of these? I haven't seen any as I comb around the net. Thanks, -Ron
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look for one for a 2.0 bus TB. Its slightly, different but, works. I use a very thin even smear of high temp permatex ultra...any of them will do for this but ultra black or copper are best. Adhere the cone shaped gasket to the TB...tape it in place to keep it straight, and let dry overnight. Reach in with a q-tip and clean out any RTV that squeezes out becore it, dries.
Then put a thin smear on the plenum side install and let dry completely. Ray
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