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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:15 pm    Post subject: Odd starter Reply with quote

Ok, little help needed on odd starter. Putting a 6V starter in and digging through my stash of used Bosch 6v starters to find a good used one. Found one that looked good: It is in all respects a 6v starter; right size, right diameter shaft, correct gear; 6v solenoid: But, stamped on the housing where a normal 6v starter is stamped with the Bosch part # as 0001201001 and 6v05PS, it is stamped with a slightly different part # 0001208006 and 12v 05PS. Hmm, is this thing a 12V starter? Since it is going in a car with a 6V flywheel that has been converted to 12V I stick it in and crank the car. Sure enough; it is a 12V motor, not a 6V running on 12V.

So here is the question: Where in the heck did it originate? In all respects in appears to be an absolute original 6V Bosch starter, but has a 12V motor. I thought maybe some early 67 Type I when they were first converting to 12V and still had maybe a 6V flywheel. Or maybe the same circumstance for an early Type III 12V car. Have never seen one before to by knowledge. But it sure makes a great way to upgrade to a 12V starter on an old 6V car.

Have I got something that is really rare? Or just something I have never noticed before in my 50 + years of messing with VWs.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buses could be custom ordered with a 12v system before 1967.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:51 pm    Post subject: starter Reply with quote

Thanks for the response Richard. It got me to thinking; yes the busses, probably as early as 62 could be built with M-Code M620; 12V electrics. VW must have had Bosch build a special 12V starter for the M620 busses. Not sure how many of them are around, but if we could find a supply it sure would solve an age-old problem of converting early 6V VWs to 12V without having to change the flywheel or run that fast spinning 6V starter on 6V. I have never seen one of these starters before, but it works great. Anyone else got one?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have owned 2 of these starters. I still own one of them and it's NOS from a VW dealer. Story was it was to suit a 12V M coded car in the early 1960's. I can provide some images at some stage. Never been fitted to a car.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hard to know for sure without a picture but Bosch was not the only supplier of electrical parts for VW. Starting as early as 1955 Garbe Lahmeyer had electrical items installed in VW's. If the housing has a VW stamp and lacks any Bosch designation it is likely a GL part.
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