How to lower a Bus and all lowering questions

pondoras box · Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:20 am Post subject:

I asked this question on my build thread, but no answer, so I am not sure if people didn't see it. I hope it is not an issue to ask here again, where it kind of fits.

I just picked up a 68 transaxle to straight axle my bus and in the process of tearing it down to clean up and reseal I found this. I have not been this far into a trans in a long while and cant remember what the axle tubes are supposed to look like but these seem bent to me. If they are bent they are bent at exactly the same angle on both sides which is what is causing me to second guess myself.

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My question are....
1. are they indeed bent?
2. if yes then are all axle tubes themselves the same length with the only difference being in the length of the end casting itself.

I know the pin can be removed and the end casting pressed off just not sure if any axle tube will work as a replacement.

Thanks!
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Ian · Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:47 am Post subject:

Not supposed to be bent. It's ridiculously common and definitely a reason VW switched to CV axles which are way better.

Some axle tubes for early RGB's are really really thick wall tube. I think all Bug tubes are the same length. Sometimes it can be a PITA to get the end casting off. Heat the crap out of the area around the pin and use an air hammer with the pointy bit in it to try and drive the pin out. If that doesn't work I grind the top flat and drill through the middle of it with a small diameter bit, that releases the tension and you can push them out. Only problem is you'll need to get another pin.

Pushing the tube out of the casting should be self explanatory, but it does require a fairly stout press.
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pondoras box · Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:02 am Post subject:

Thanks for the reply, I was hoping that I was wrong about them being bent. Classifieds here I come!
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1965 13 Window (Lucas)
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1988 Cabriolet VR6 conversion
Plus a lot of other rusty junk

wrenchnride247 · Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:24 pm Post subject:

pondoras box · Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:14 pm Post subject:

Ian · Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:25 am Post subject:

Why would you buy tubes that you will have to modify? All Bug tubes are the same, difference in stock parts is only the end-casting. If you are doing a traditional straight axle setup with cut Bus plates (NOT offsets) then you have to lengthen your tube no matter what.

Buy these and then press your end castings on:

http://www.pacificcustoms.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Scr...ange_high=
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wrenchnride247 · Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:37 pm Post subject:

cdennisg · Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:27 am Post subject:

vanBoven · Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:25 pm Post subject:

Got a 4" narrowed beam with urethane's. I want to get rid of them, has anyone machined a oillite or bronze bushing or the like to replace the urethane bushings? Pro's? Con's? Just thinking it might work and be less work then building a needle bearing beam.
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jacopotex · Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:33 am Post subject:

Hi folks, i have a questions about the straight axle conversion.

i want to lower my bus, and i bought last month a bug straight axle gearbox

if i'm correct i bought a long axle, it's long 120mm, please tell me if i'm wrong

So i will fit it on my bus but i don't understand what type of spring plate i must use.

in this forum i found many different solution, like :
adjuster spring plates
offset spring plates
and another, where you can use the original spring plate of the bus witth out the reduction.

so the question is :

when i must use the offset spring plate and when i must use the adjuster spring plates?

if is possible i will use the adjuster spring plates

offset

adjuster

cdennisg · Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:50 pm Post subject:

Looks like you have a type 3 tranny with long axles and end castings. The offset spring plates will work perfectly. The only reason to use adjustable spring plates is that they make it easier to dial in your ride height. They are not necessary, but they are easier. The same can be done with spring plate/torsion bar indexing, but it takes more time and you have to tear things apart to adjust.
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BATComm1 · Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:36 pm Post subject:

Ok I've scanned till my eyes have crossed.. basic question, looking at doing an IRS conversion on my 66 split, in general what amount of drop should I expect without the adjustable spring plates, and what will I get with them, I know there are variable so Im just looking for generals...

Thank you!!
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