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frank2678 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:17 pm Post subject: Eriba puck tire size? |
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would like to know what size are the tires on a puck mine say 5.20-10 but cant find any in that size. if any one knows where to get a new set would be great help. my puck has the original rims if it helps? |
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mrvwaccessory Samba Member
Joined: April 25, 2002 Posts: 173 Location: Paso Robles, CA
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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On my Puck, the tire shows 145R10.
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wythac Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Sent Frank a PM, but thought this info might be useful to all "Puck People":
I am running some Trademaster brand utility trailer tires. They are 20.5(tire height)x10(rim)x8(width). I ended up with these after the OEM 10x5.00 tires needed to get surplused before I took the trailer another inch.
They are domestically available in the US...I think I paid about 30-35 bucks per tire for three. My local tire dealer got them from a national truck and trailer supply shop called Six Robblees. They are commonly used on small utility trailers and large commercial riding lawnmowers. I think I recall the load rating at about 1000-1500 lbs....if anyone wants to know exactly, send me a note and I will take a look at the numbers.
One problem I encountered was with the width...they rubbed on the outside lip of the fenderwells under full suspension compression. Since the torsion arms on a Puck might have all of about an inch and a half of travel, solving this problem was not difficult; I took some steel plates that I got at my local hardware store, along with some longer, stouter fasteners, and "lifted" the frame about 1" by stacking the plates between the frame and the axle. Since there are no brakes or wires or anything like that on a Puck axle, the run to the hardware store took longer than it took me to install the plates. With the tires filling the fenderwell, you really can't tell its been lifted.
Trailer tows as if it is on rails behind my Vanagon. I'll post some pics if there is some interest in seeing it.
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wythac Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:20 am Post subject: |
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Here's a few pics
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NASkeet Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2006 Posts: 2958 Location: South Benfleet, Essex, UK
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:40 am Post subject: Re: eriba puck tire size? |
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frank2678 wrote: |
would like to know what size are the tires on a puck mine say 5.20-10 but cant find any in that size. if any one knows where to get a new set would be great help. my puck has the original rims if it helps? |
Try contacting Eriba in France, who still manufacture the Eriba Puck and other Eriba caravan models. If you tell them which model & model-year you have, they should be able to recommend an appropriate tyre size & load rating. _________________ Regards.
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Forum Eriba Touring Samba Member
Joined: July 13, 2008 Posts: 5 Location: FRANCE
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wythac Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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Take a look at the difference between the pictures posted by me and by the last guy from the Eriba Touring guy and make up your own minds. The size of the tire in his picture is clearly significantly larger than the wheel well on a Puck. That someone put a tire like that on a Puck was absolutely stupid, and deserved that result.
The pictures of the tires on my Puck are perfectly suited for the trailer, are not going to blow out the wheel well, and are commerically available through just about any tire store here in the US, at significantly less expense. I did not want to have tire that I must get from Europe on my trailer as I drag it across a different continent. OEM tires available from limited suppliers and greater expense on another continent make sense only if your trailer is show pony, and not intended for actual use on the highways here.
My .02. Like I said, look at the pictures, make up your own minds. I have 5,000 trouble free miles now on the tires in the pictures I posted. When I am done with them, and have bought another three, I still will not have spend as much as I would have on even one OEM size tire set. |
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amishman Samba Member
Joined: March 09, 2004 Posts: 3219 Location: California
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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I just ordered these Kuhmo 145/80R10 Tires from www.tirerack.com. $46 each. $168 delivered for 3.
http://tinyurl.com/al5f7o
And here are the specs. Look pretty close to the Michelin I have.
http://tinyurl.com/b84dth
The old Honda 600 used these similar sized tires as the puck. The 145/80R10 should be a real nice and close fit. These are the only 145/10 I found in USA. No local dealers had anything. I found these on tire rack and just ordered some. Should be here Friday.
I will stick one new one up side by side with my beat to hell stock 145/10 that came on the Puck to see how close they are.
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amishman Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:30 am Post subject: |
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Here is what found will be a perfect fit for Eriba Pucks. Tire Rack sells them and they are the 145/10 size like stock Puck tires were. Set of 3 delivered to me in California was only $168!
Deal!
tj
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Maddy1001 Samba Member
Joined: May 10, 2009 Posts: 49 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:06 pm Post subject: Also looking for tires |
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I'm in the process of buying a Puck, but it has to come cross country and the older tires on it might not be up to the 3,000 mile trip if it's towed. I have been calling to find new ones, but not having any luck. Kumho discontinued the 145/80/10 size one year ago. And the fact that there are 4 lugs is also a problem. The closest size I can find is 145/80/12 already mounted and they have 5 lugs.
Anyone have any updated information to this situation?
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Mike Fisher Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 17970 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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I ran 10" golf cart tires on my Austin MINI panel on Baja wheels. I think the 145X10 were the original size on the stock steel wheels.
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amishman Samba Member
Joined: March 09, 2004 Posts: 3219 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:23 am Post subject: Re: Also looking for tires |
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Maddy1001 wrote: |
I'm in the process of buying a Puck, but it has to come cross country and the older tires on it might not be up to the 3,000 mile trip if it's towed. I have been calling to find new ones, but not having any luck. Kumho discontinued the 145/80/10 size one year ago. And the fact that there are 4 lugs is also a problem. The closest size I can find is 145/80/12 already mounted and they have 5 lugs.
Anyone have any updated information to this situation?
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Austin Mini Coopers, those old little pip squeak cars, use the small tires like the Puck. Call or Google Mini Cooper specialists and I get they have leads to the 145/10 tires.
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Kelly Samba Member
Joined: November 25, 2003 Posts: 2437 Location: Olympia, WA
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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7enterprises in CA has 'em. I'm pretty sure they carry two different brands. You should read over the sticky in my signature
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wythac Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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Maddy, you are wise to replace tires before your trip.
A cautionary tale to back that up; I bought mine in Southern California and brought it back to the Northwest by way of a trip thru the Southwest....a little over 2000 miles. I had a spare, but it was rather old and sketchy looking. All was well, despite the fact that this was in June and on hot pavement...about 150 miles from home, I noticed that the trailer had a bit of a list to it in my rear view, seconds later I had a sidewall blowout.
Now I am down to the crappy spare, and still 150 miles from home with an exotic european trailer on a weekend. I limped home on the spare and it took me nearly 2 weeks to locate tires that would work. I felt lucky to have gotten home, as if that had happened farther from my destination I would have blown that crappy spare for sure as well, and been totally hosed. |
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ianpro Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:10 pm Post subject: Eriba Puck Wheels |
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OK, I know this thread is about tires, but has anyone had to replace their Puck's wheels? My '71 has the original steel 10" wheels with 4 bolt holes, which are impossible to locate in the US. Somehow mine have become slightly warped and the tires no longer hold air. Several local tires stores (Les Schwab, Goodyear) recommend 12" trailer rims, but they are too tall for the wheel well, and boost the trailer too high. I could go with 8" wheels, but these are so small they look odd in the wheel well, and won't ride as smoothly. Does anyone know where 10" replacement wheels can be located? Thanks. |
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ToolBox Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2004 Posts: 3439 Location: Detroit, where they don't jack parts off my ride in the parking lot of the 7-11
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:26 am Post subject: Re: Eriba Puck Wheels |
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ianpro wrote: |
OK, I know this thread is about tires, but has anyone had to replace their Puck's wheels? My '71 has the original steel 10" wheels with 4 bolt holes, which are impossible to locate in the US. Somehow mine have become slightly warped and the tires no longer hold air. Several local tires stores (Les Schwab, Goodyear) recommend 12" trailer rims, but they are too tall for the wheel well, and boost the trailer too high. I could go with 8" wheels, but these are so small they look odd in the wheel well, and won't ride as smoothly. Does anyone know where 10" replacement wheels can be located? Thanks. |
You could get the wheels straightened and buy some 145R10 tires and all will be good. |
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selkirk19 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:35 pm Post subject: puck tires |
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I just completed a trip from Oregon to Colorado and back, with my 1971 Eriba Puck. I had a blowout on the left tire of the Puck. After putting on the spare, I had a hard time finding anyone who carried the same tire size that was on the Puck, so I would have a spare. I ended up buying 3 new tires, size 480X12, which are about 1 3/4 larger in diameter than the 10" original Puck wheels/tires. The new 480X12 tires fit great in the wheel well of the Puck, and ride smoother and better than the smaller original Puck tires. And there is plenty of room under the fenders for them, too. But best, they are easy to find. Les Schwab, which covers most of the western US, has them in stock, and I'm sure other dealers can easily get them, too. I highly recommend the 480X12 size tires (the 12" wheels fit the 4 lug pattern of the Puck). Better ride, more durable and worked great for flying down the freeway! I completed the last 2,500 miles of the trip on these tires and they still look and ride like brand new. |
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LILPUKR Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 7:59 pm Post subject: New 16.5x6.50-8 Tires & Wheels for my '68 Puck |
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We limped home a few weeks ago (525 mi) from buying our Puck. I stopped by the tire center and they checked the bearings, pressure & lug nuts before we left town. The only thing that happened was one flat 20 year old tire. But I had a spare 20 year old tire to get us the last 150 miles.
I seriously considered lifting the chassis 1-1/2" to accommodate 12" tires but I didn't like the idea of needing a step stool to get in and out. Nor did I like having a taller trailer to store in the garage or to tow through a cross wind. I called RecStuff.com as they carry a line of higher end trailer tires made by Kenda that are rated for 65mph. The service rep pointed out that the 12" tires that would fit in the wheel well aren't the reinforced-sidewall trailer tire. They are standard highway tires for a car. But these 8" tires are reinforced. She also mentioned at the low weight of a Puck, none of these tires were getting a workout.
That convinced me. I ordered three new 8" tires with rims. $168 delivered. I figured if the rims didn't work, at $11 each I could throw them out. But they do, though I did have to take a round file to them to enlarge the holes a bit into the center. Then I ordered new deep lug nuts from Amazon. M14 x 1.5mm are the right size for my trailer and they hold significantly better than what was there.
I think we're ready for our 200 mile trip this week!
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Can we see more pics of the trailer please? _________________ 1971 Deluxe Sunroof Bay 1905 stroker, dual idf40's, 74mm Scat forged crank, engle 110 cam. CB 044 heads, AutoCraft rockers, chromoly push rods
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Tom_T Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:34 pm Post subject: Re: Eriba puck tire size? |
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This is a current Puck Tires update as of Nov. 2018, on tire availability & sources for Eriba Puck, Pan, Faun, Familia & similar trailers using the 10" rim size, as I just got some for our "new to us" 1970 Puck (used to be TJ/Amishman's Puck discussed above).
For the 145/80R10 tire size - the Kumho's noted above are NLA, as are most or all of the other ones above
There are NO trailer/ST tires available here in the USA at this time, with the low rolling resistance tread design, stronger limited flex sidewalls, & better heat resistance, etc. as needed for a trailer - versus the grippy tread & sidewall flex for good handling on a car.
While Maxxis makes excellent ST & LT tires, & they do make a 145/80R10 trailer tires for the UK/Euro market - the do not have it in the USA. Too bad, because we have Maxxis M8008 ST225/75R15 trailer tires on our bigger vintage 1960 Avion T20 trailer (sim. to Airstream), & their UE-168 LT205/70HR14 tires on our `88 Westfalia - & all are excellent tires!
So we're left with 10" auto tires as used on old school 1960's-70s Mini/Mini Cooper etc. small cars, but Tire Rack, Americas Tires & other local & internet tire sellers no longer carry that size.
Vintage tires sellers like Coker, Lucas, Universal & others do sell a somewhat reasonably priced Camac 145/80R10 auto tire for around $70+/- each, but these have a "Dog Bone" tread design which IMHO will give a pulled trailer much more rolling resistance - as compared to the more lineal tread design as shown in Amishman's post with the Kumho above (those tires are still on our Puck, so due for updating at about 10 years old, although still 80-90% tread still there).
What I found were Falken SN807 145/80SR10 tires, which have a similar linear tread design to the Kumho - & they are carried by several Mini specialists here in the USA, but they apparently mark them up a lot more to almost $300 for 3 (I'm replacing 2 + spare), than do the UK sellers.
Mini Sport USA out of the UK, which are set up at the link below to sell & ship to the USA customers (referred by my 60's Mini buddies), charged me $148 with regular UPS shipping for 3 tires, & they were here in about a week (about the same as Tire Rack, etc.).
https://usa.minisport.com/fal145x10-falken-sincera-sn807-tyre.html
Ignore the 1st online price which includes UK VAT, it changes when you add to your cart & put in your country & state. Also see the tire pic on that link.
Cheers!
Tom
/////// _________________ 1973 914-2.0 - 2nd owner since 12/75
1985 BMW 325e 2dr - OO
1988 Vanagon CamperGL Westy - OO
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