Corner bag

Dake · Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 11:05 pm Post subject: Corner bag

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Do I need to keep this bag?

stale air · Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 11:29 pm Post subject:

Yes, it's factory insulation.
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Emeraldlion · Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:53 am Post subject:

Not just insulation. They block air from the engine bay from going into the cabin. That channel goes straight into cabin. Starting in 65 or 66(someone correct me if wrong), they began spraying foam insulation in that channel.

Dake · Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:21 am Post subject:

I want to clean and paint in here. So pull it out and put it back or clean around it. I got new tar board to put in.

grandpa pete · Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:23 am Post subject:

Clean around it ...there is a little controversary on this website as to where VW used Asbestos in their cars....
Type the word "asbestos " into the search and join in the discussion ; or just be careful around ANY 50 year old fire/heat insulation .
YES I AM one of " those people who worked with it " Sad

and would rather have you err on the side of caution ........
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KTPhil · Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:18 am Post subject:

The only asbestos I've seen VW confirm is noted in this service manual:

Note is at top right, and refers to the middle photo in the right side.

"Check the asbestos seal in the cover plate and in the manifold pre-heater pipe sealing plate." In other words, the seals in the tin surrounding the manifold pre-heat pipe (heat riser).

They were fibrous, white pieces about 1/8" thick, sort of half-round (split) so they sealed around the small pipe. Easy to knock fibers loose when messing with them.

panicman · Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:33 pm Post subject:

Those are also referred to as "pillows".

Yes, you need to keep them. You can pull them to work, but absolutely replace them. If you don't, you will suck exhaust gas into the car.
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tisius · Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:10 am Post subject:

Asbestos was used by the VW factory in brake linings, clutch, engine, and engine/exhaust gaskets.
Asbestos is no bueno, make sure to be properly protected when working on the above components Exclamation

Personally I use a dust mouth/nose cover which is suitable for working near asbestos containing material, and I spray everything wet with water or WD40 before I start working on the parts.

I would be surprised if there is any asbestos in those pillows, considering that the tar board insulation in the engine bay already reflects most of the engine's heat, so the area where the pillows sit are not getting way hot.
Not sure what of exact material thoes pillows are made of though.
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56Cabrio · Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:12 pm Post subject:

This guy is reproducing them if you want new ones. Don't know the quality.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1742547
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Dake · Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:24 pm Post subject:

Im just going to work around them. I was going to pull them and not run the tar board. I have ordered new tar boards to cover the bags.

panicman

Tim Donahoe · Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:02 am Post subject:

Wolfsburg West has those white pre-heat tube gaskets. They aren't very expensive. I replaced both of mine.

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Mark · Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:04 pm Post subject:

I heard the quality of those repros (footballs) is pretty good, but I might be biased Wink


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