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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coated my stock wheels in POR-15, and primed them for paint. Received my new tires, and ordered a big box of brake parts from Ron.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spent way too much on parts in an effort to help out the economy.... If we dont order, the terrorists win.
Also finally put the new sway bar on...easy peasy

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 7:53 am    Post subject: Cleaned and sealed the cargo floor Reply with quote

I cleaned everything in I could and closed up any drill holes so no water will come in .. plus i also opened up some holes so any rain water coming in from the poor seals can go right out..

I used Rust Oleum Truck bedliner from Wal Mart at $28.00 for the gallong but you will only use 1/8th of the gallon and the rest can be used on the chassis underneath of your bus.

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You get a better result if you spray it on instead of rolling it on.. just got to mask areas off so it doesnt get all over.. but look how much better it covered from the previous pic

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought about maybe, possibly, potentially driving it around the block. Then I opted out.

Maybe tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:17 am    Post subject: I insulated the interior walls of my bay Reply with quote

I know some people frown on using this Dynamat looking stuff because it is rubberized Asphalt so they say.. but i have heard plenty of other people saying that it is good to use.. so i dont know.. i used it to deaden the sound and then on top of that i went with the foam insulation panel.

Choose your weapon

the first rolls costs $19.28 for a 9" x 33' roll

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This other one cost $16.48 for a 6" x 25' roll

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Then i used the 3/4" Polyso insulation (About $15.00 at Lowe's or Home Depot) for a 4' x 8' panel, very easy to trim with a razor blade and you apply with 3M Spray adhesive #90 High Strength.. you spray one side and then the other and wait a couple of minutes then place panel.. that baby is never coming off...

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i decided to change the westy furniture color to match the wood panels..

Its mica or formica veneer that is on the Westy furniture but i was told i could sand it with a 150 grit sandpaper in the same direction as the grain and then stain it.. I should have let it dry first and then apply a second hand of stain and it would have turned out better but i was a bit impatient.. next time i will make sure to do just that...

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All sanded now .. here comes the stain and also i applied then clear coat.

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Not bad

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I messed up here a little i should have waited for it to dry a bit more before applying a second hand of stain

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pulled my starter and ordered a new Bosch one. Learned about the odd d bolt. Pulled my seats to put new fabric on them. Pulled all my panels to recoat with poly. Some other fun stuff
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spent the last four days working on electrical. Repaired as I went. Started with only brake lights and wipers. Now have all dash lights, turns, headlights, dimmer, markers, brakes.

I also installed an original Saphirre AM radio. I absolutely love it. Sounds good looks even better.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Spent the last four days working on electrical. Repaired as I went. Started with only brake lights and wipers. Now have all dash lights, turns, headlights, dimmer, markers, brakes.

I also installed an original Saphirre AM radio. I absolutely love it. Sounds good looks even better.


Nice! Electrical work is one of those things I dread when I have to do it, but once I get into it the fun kind of creeps up on me… Then it gets exciting when things work! Luckily, I've never gotten so exciting that smoke came out……

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2.ooohhh wrote:
Coated my stock wheels in POR-15, and primed them for paint. Received my new tires, and ordered a big box of brake parts from Ron.


NOTE ; POR15 doesn't have any UV protection and SHOULD NOT be used on anything exposed to sunlight
Besides Rustoleum oil base rusty metal primer and paint are easier to use AND a lot cheaper .
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:12 pm    Post subject: A month and a half of work... Reply with quote

I started with a pretty clean bus. I've been after one like this for 20+ years! Finally found a rust free 77 that a body shop guy had repainted and almost finished restoring, aside from the interior. (those specs on the front are bugs) Even came with new rubber mats, and a new poptop. (Poptop was even properly gloss sealed / painted. ) Crazy. It was gotten for a very very reasonable price too. My father had one of these in the exact same color when I was 8 years old that we drove all over the west. It's a real time machine for me, and you could have knocked me over with a feather when I found it. (In the state where I grew up, while visiting.) Hell, it may even be my old man's bus! Have to get him to look up the VIN with the state if the records go back that far.
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This was the interior beforehand. Like a lot of Westys, someone ripped out the cabinets, and destroyed them to get more space. This old green carpet was tacked to the wall, and the spare tire bolted to the metal behind the driver seat.
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I was very VERY lucky to find a deluxe complete cabinet / stove, right here on the Samba that arrived in almost perfect condition. Working pump, tank in place, everything. The wood veneer was a bit scratched / chipped though.

So, I sourced some very similar veneer from my local wood shop, and began removing the interior / z-bed etc. (Thanks to all the great posts I've been reading for years on thesamba.) I'm totally not a car restoration guy, but I'm fairly handy and have a good eye for detail, so I think that took me a long way.

The chipping away / heat gun begins...
I had never worked with linoleum / contact cement before. It was a doozy. Thanks youtube!
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New veneer applied to the top of the doors on the storage bin / cooler...
It's a little darker, and the grain isn't quite perfect, but it works. I left what original veneer looked good enough, may re-do everything with the same stuff when I've got more cash and time in the future.
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Front seats fabric was in great shape, but the zbed needed new material.
A few clicks on the web, and hey... look what shows up from the fine folks at BusDepot! (In an appropriately German box.)
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Here she is from the side.
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Zbed back in place, and new foam in the rear bed. Original fabric was ok here. Just unzipped it, took out the old crumbly 38 year old foam, popped in the new stuff.
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Boiled the trim and re-installed. Now I need some of that (acetone?) that will shine the dings outta the plastic... that's an original privacy curtain in the bottom there in absolutely perfect shape. Can't say as much for the rear mosquito net, being made of plastic, it just fell to pieces when I opened it up for the first time.
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Had some leftover pergo.. so I dropped that in 1st, after applying some sound deadening / sticky flashing from Home Despot... Not bad...
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But argh! Damnit! When I got the zbed back in, the tongued grooves popped out on one side. Can't get it back. Just might remove it and go back to the original green carpet. Wife likes the wood floor though. Might cover it with a rug. Oh yeah, now I remember why we threw these bits of pergo into the garage in the 1st place.
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Rear zbed with new foam / new fabric put back in place:
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Closet door was missing it's veneer entirely. Fix'd.
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Washed and put all the curtains back in the bus. Still in ok shape. A bit sun faded though. Need to figure out how to re-whiten / clean that white plastic grab handle.
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Deluxe sink / stove in non-deluxe westy. If I added the electric panel / city water hookup would I have a deluxe? Very Happy
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New Westfalia sticker sourced from Ebay / new veneer on the tire cover:
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Front seats are still in great shape.
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Found an Ebay seller in Germany selling absolutely flawless vintage Blaupunkt cassette decks. This one's a Dusseldorf. Replaced a terrible CD player. I feel that this is a bit more era-correct. You could have easily upgraded to this in the early 80's. Plus I still have a bunch of cassettes, and with a cassette adapter, full access to tunes from the phone / web. You can see the yellow car paint that got splattered across the dash in places when they re-painted. Now I can't get the darn stuff off. It's barely visible, and a bit on the steering wheel too.
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Used black Sugru to fill some cracks in the dashboard / steering wheel. If you don't know about Sugru, ( as used in 69doublecab's recent post) look it up. It's very neat stuff. Air drying silicon rubber. Should do well in the heat or cold.
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Restored top of storage / fridge:
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Took out old panels, used them as templates for new panels. Installed all of those in the right spots, sliding door and rear hatch included. Black pop rivets sourced from Ebay:
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New retractable seat belts. So much more comfortable / safe:
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And finally, she's ready to drive!
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( Except replacing the filler neck didn't kill the gas smell problem, and my wife won't ride in it til it's done. ) Argh! Back to the shop she goes to check out every hose in the fuel line / breather system.

That's it.
Apologies for the long post, but a huge thanks to everyone who painstakingly detailed their work in bus restoration over the years. It was a huge help.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should check and replace ALL the rubber hose and likely plastic that is in the two vent hoses above the fuel tank, then coming out in the rear to a tee and hooked to a charcoal cannister.
Seems to me Ratwell has a nice writeup somewhere on theSamba. Seems like the pipes are metal inside but plastic outside. And about 8 short pieces of rubber hose more or less.The tee tends to get brittle also.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:52 am    Post subject: Re: A month and a half of work... Reply with quote

cartoonmonkey wrote:
I started with a pretty clean bus.


Your bus looks great!
Why don't you start a dedicated thread for it?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoops,just realized that was a ton of pics for this section. I'll create a dedicated thread.
Thanks for the gas line tips. Getting things replaced this week.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cartoonmonkey wrote:
Whoops,just realized that was a ton of pics for this section. I'll create a dedicated thread.
Thanks for the gas line tips. Getting things replaced this week.


I'm not complaining at all! You bus deserves it's own thread is all. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Installed front brake pads today. Didn't know our bus could stop like that. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 9:10 am    Post subject: Tackling the interior of my '69 bay Reply with quote

It took about a week to get my cushions back from the Upholsterer..

They came out great and the color is just the way i wanted it.

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I had to trim some of the curtains..

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I had to match the other furniture pieces so i had to add more stain and the seat also had to be stained.

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I made these strips out of composite material from Home Depot because it was flexible enough for the contour of the ceiling panels

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I used an AWL to help pull the Z bed hinges to properly fasten the 10mm bolt

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These are great to use to make perfect holes and it is what i used so i could bolt the Z bed hinges

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Now to cover the Armrest with the same material as the cushions..
I laid out the vinyl and applied spray adhesive on both sides and let it dry a bit before putting it together.

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Here is the finished product.. has to be stretched and secured with a staple gun.
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Well here it is installed
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and here are two worthy participants so i could model the finished Zbed
I have pixelated their faces to protect the innocent.
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Some pics from behind via the rear hatch door
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Now to tackle the floor area...
60" wide x 48" Length front to back
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Learned how to replace generator belt and pully today. Generator light came on yesterday. Threw the belt and the pully and shims were a mess. This new motor only has 4,200 miles. Any reasons this would be destroyed so quickly?
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Learned how to replace generator belt and pully today. Generator light came on yesterday. Threw the belt and the pully and shims were a mess. This new motor only has 4,200 miles. Any reasons this would be destroyed so quickly?


Poor pulley alignment? Rusty/pitted pulleys? Excessive belt tension? Not enough belt tension?

Lots of possibilities.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What cdennisg said. Especially look at the pulleys for rust. Just 5 years sitting will make them so gritty they will eat belts. As the belt enters the v groove and leaves it there is quite a bit of friction. Not a problem if the steel is glassy smooth. Big problem if it is 40 grit.
But sandpaper can fix it quite easily. Take off the belt and run it at idle for a few seconds with progressively finer grits shining it up. I'd start with 80 and end up with 320.
Myself, I'd just fold the paper to a stiff edge and touch it to the v surfaces with the motor idling (WITHOUT THE BELT OF COURSE!) Now your engine NEEDS THE FAN TO REMOVE HEAT, so only do this maybe 15 seconds at a time.
AND, JUST LIKE ANY PROCEDURE THAT CAN HURT YOU, THINK IT THROUGH. HOW CAN THIS GO WRONG? Handbrake set? wheels blocked? anything to start on fire?
If EVER you do a procedure that in some way could start a fire, take all precaution, AND MOVE THE CAR OUTDOORS. Bad enough to have a car damaged. 10 times as bad to burn your shop down.
EVERY TIME YOU GET UNDER IT.
EVERY TIME YOU HAVE A BODY PART THAT COULD GET SMASHED OR SEVERED. (First hand knowledge of that one!)
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