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madjon Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2003 Posts: 86
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 5:17 pm Post subject: Shocks for Oldspeed drop spindles |
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Does anyone have a recommendation for front shocks for a type 3 that is lowered using Oldspeed type 3 drop spindles. Probably has a one spline turn also. I have gone from stock spindles with a 3 spline drop to the drop spindles and some spline tuning too. The ride is different, as in much less cush, more twitchy/ bobbling at speed. Should I need shorter shocks with those spindles to help smooth things out?
Thank you!
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Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22431 Location: Kimball, Mi
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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If you're only down 1 spline now (or even 2 splines), you can still use stock length shocks. Right off hand I don't know where you'd find them (they're similar to the rear of a bug), as you really want an oil shock for the front (gas shocks are a no no). _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
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Erik G Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2002 Posts: 13281 Location: Tejas!
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Stock oil shocks and if any doubt ask Russell |
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ALLWAGONS Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2000 Posts: 4189 Location: Pasadena CA/DTLA soon China
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 9:53 pm Post subject: Greetings |
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Hello Madjon,
I saw your squareback by the SP High School. I also live in So Pas and have a '65 sunroof Variant and know others that have type 3's in the area. Nice to see a decent square around.
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NorCalTodd2011 Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2011 Posts: 9 Location: Auburn, California
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Stock oil shocks. I have bought lowered shock for mine and they are to short.
Russell builds the best stuff put there.
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luckystiff Samba Member
Joined: September 28, 2005 Posts: 2252 Location: hickory,nc
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:35 am Post subject: |
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can't speak to if they work with those spindles but the best easy answer for shorter shocks is Monroe 5752 barndoor bus shocks(oil filled). about $20ea and your local parts house can get them within a coupla days no problem(if they don't have them on hand aleady)...ken.... _________________ ITMC
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NorCalTodd2011 Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2011 Posts: 9 Location: Auburn, California
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:05 pm Post subject: Shocks |
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The 5752 shocks are too short for the spindles that Russell builds. Stock length oil shocks should work just fine. He down not change the locator of the shock mounts.
If you have lowered the front end further than yes the 5752 will work. |
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madjon Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2003 Posts: 86
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the input. It sounds like shorter shocks may not be needed, which makes sense. Its just that I am a little surprised that going from a 3 spline drop with regular shocks and regular stock spindles, to the Oldspeed spindles, that therefore do not need such a big of a spline turn to achieve the same kind of drop, with the same shocks, that the ride is so markedly different. It feels less plush than it was. That is counter intuitive. |
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madjon Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2003 Posts: 86
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: Greetings |
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ALLWAGONS wrote: |
Hello Madjon,
I saw your squareback by the SP High School. I also live in So Pas and have a '65 sunroof Variant and know others that have type 3's in the area. Nice to see a decent square around.
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Thank you. That would be my son who lives there and is driving the Squareback |
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luckystiff Samba Member
Joined: September 28, 2005 Posts: 2252 Location: hickory,nc
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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madjon wrote: |
Thanks for the input. It sounds like shorter shocks may not be needed, which makes sense. Its just that I am a little surprised that going from a 3 spline drop with regular shocks and regular stock spindles, to the Oldspeed spindles, that therefore do not need such a big of a spline turn to achieve the same kind of drop, with the same shocks, that the ride is so markedly different. It feels less plush than it was. That is counter intuitive. |
that is a bit suprising and should be the opposite of what i would expect. any chance something is binding somewhere? _________________ ITMC
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madjon Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2003 Posts: 86
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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luckystiff wrote: |
madjon wrote: |
Thanks for the input. It sounds like shorter shocks may not be needed, which makes sense. Its just that I am a little surprised that going from a 3 spline drop with regular shocks and regular stock spindles, to the Oldspeed spindles, that therefore do not need such a big of a spline turn to achieve the same kind of drop, with the same shocks, that the ride is so markedly different. It feels less plush than it was. That is counter intuitive. |
that is a bit suprising and should be the opposite of what i would expect. any chance something is binding somewhere? |
Yes. One of the shocks was not moving freely. Once that was sorted it tides great. |
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rays-64 Samba Member
Joined: April 02, 2010 Posts: 343 Location: corona, CA
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: Shocks for Oldspeed drop spindles |
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I'm running the old speed drop spindles along with 2 clicks down. I went with the stock oil shocks (way to soft). Went to the Monroe 5752 shock. Is it normal to have to raise lower control arm about 1 1/2" up with jack to get shock holes to line up to fit the 5752 shock?? |
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