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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It looks great.
Are you going to run a fake regulator to complete the look or convert a round regulator to 12v?


Thanks Everett Smile

Funnily enough i've started a thread here to try and work out the best way to do it ->http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=611326

I'm not sure the method to convert the reg, nor am I sure which is the correct reg to use if keeping the original as a dummy?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm impressed! 😎
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has the 25hp oil filler cap, so I'm guessing this is from 1953...
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

'53 -'55 had the clip on oil cap with the dimple but was longer than the earlier non clip/dimple 25 hp version. I can't tell from the picture which one but the distributor on that engine has a vacuum advance so it can't be a '53 because it would have the centrifugal only distributor if it were a '53.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its got the round regulator. Its got the holed coil bracket. 30hp.
So I class that as right to go in the 54/55 Engine Thread.

Boy you guys are harsh. Derek is right to hesitate.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool clear period Speedwell (Pepco?) -supercharged 30hp pic

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Big spring, offset round regulator, fat-lip top pulley (marked), wire-clip distributor, fan-housing ink...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it even has the "uterus" manifold.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you mean by fan-housing ink?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What do you mean by fan-housing ink?


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dang...that inner belt is SO close to the generator pulley/nut. How close does it get when the engine is revved? That is a really sweet set-up!!! I like how the regulator was raised to clear the supercharger!!! NICE work!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is what I suspected but what did that or what does that indicate?

What is the significance of that mark?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im sure fan-housing markings have been discussed somewhere...they rub off very easily so most have been lost?

Is that charger Speedwell or Pepco? They look similar.

Here's a recent shot of a Pepco in a 55 Barndoor. Good detail of a 54/5 30hp from another angle. I always think the long pump>carb fuel line looks a bit odd. Curved on the oval's engine.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 11:07 pm    Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! Reply with quote

Awesome thread. One of the most informative ive ever read. I know this is a replay to an older posting, but id like to add to what someone posted earlier about the strap style air cleaners vs. The "two clip" type.

I think janerick3 said that both knecht and Mann types were used in both 54 and 55. However, People keep saying that others have the "wrong air cleaner, that it should be the single strap type...."
I fan further confirm what janerick3 said. I have two "TWO clip" style cleaners, and one is date stamped 12/54 and the other is date stamped 8/55. Both are the exact Mann "two clip" air cleaners, not the single strap style.
Btw, does any one know what the smaller sized Mann air cleaners are from. I have a very original one that has the decal still on it. Its a Mann, but smaller in diameter than my other ones.....??
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 6:35 pm    Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! Reply with quote

Interesting that a Speedwell engine would still run a DVDA beetle distributor. It's dated between December 1953 and July 1954 based upon the fact that there is a separation between the vacuum pipe port and the rest of the vacuum canister body. The other pic also had the vacuum advance but I cannot tell its vintage from the large scale photo.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 6:46 pm    Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! Reply with quote

The only factory ink stamp on a 36 hp fan shroud that I have ever seen is this one:

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Just to the right of the oil fill. It's M 178 and I have to be very careful not to clean that area aggressively as I accidentally washed the stamp off the front side without even realizing it the first time I cleaned it. M 178 represents Speed Governor which was installed but rarely on buses only.

The distributor on the Barndoor Speedwell is either an 010 or 019 based on the badge. They were not manufactured until the mid 1960's. I would have chosen either a VJ 4 BR 2, 3 or 8 or perhaps a 1960 only VJ 4 BR 25 as more period correct for a Barny.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:27 am    Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! Reply with quote

Nice restored 54/55 engine in a double-door bus.
Cant pick out too many differences from factory! Filter sticker, silver lower pulley nut, silver top pulley washers, blue coil?
Wondering if the tank>pump fuelpipe should have a gentler, uniform rear curve.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:26 am    Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! Reply with quote

Fuel line - Here's an owner's manual shot:
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:57 am    Post subject: 30hp fuel pump tinware Reply with quote

^^Thanks

30hp pump drip tray tinware...two versions
Which is early?
When was the change?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What do you mean by fan-housing ink?


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This is what I suspected but what did that or what does that indicate?

What is the significance of that mark?


While a split, this is from a 1952 Road and Track article and clearly shows an F and what appears to be an A on the shroud.

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