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uhall Samba Member
Joined: August 25, 2015 Posts: 11 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:31 pm Post subject: Solex 34 PICT 3 carb not getting fuel |
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Hi Samba Fans, I'm back with another problem. My 34 PICT 3 carb is not getting fuel.
I can spray starting fluid in carb and it will run for about 3 seconds and die, so I know it isn't anything electrical, that might be keeping my rail from running. I also just put on a brand new fuel filter about a month ago and I can see that there is fuel in the filter, so I don't think it has anything to do with the fuel pump.
So my question is, where do I start looking to tear apart, so I can clean it out? Are there certain jets that clog easier than others?
This thing was running like a champ just a week ago, and today I was coming back from the store and it just started spitting and sputtering and stopped dead.
Thanks for any help that you Buggy-holics can give me. |
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enjoyther1de Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2010 Posts: 1279 Location: chino,ca
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Are you sure your getting fuel into the bowl? Remove the inlet hose and crank it over to see if the fuel pump is working? _________________ HBB took me to BBV. |
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ORANGECRUSHer Samba Member
Joined: June 09, 2006 Posts: 2675 Location: West Coast (Michigan's)
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DON@THEO Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2012 Posts: 143 Location: Cleveland,Ohio
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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I will be watching this I have the same problem and my fuel pump is working. |
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ORANGECRUSHer Samba Member
Joined: June 09, 2006 Posts: 2675 Location: West Coast (Michigan's)
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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If you happen to decide to tear the carb apart, just make sure you setup on a big flat area and cover it with towels to keep parts from rolling away. Lay parts out the way(order) they come off. Not a bad idea to take pics as you go. Sucks when you run into that one thing that you really didn't pay attention to when you took it apart and you can't find the info about it on the net and have to guess. Even counting the number of turns for adjustment screws and writing it down will save a lot of time later putting you back where you had it. _________________ Brian H.
I may not know everything,but I will try to help if I can
OrangeCrushER Berrien Warrior 2.4L Quad4
LAZY MARY 1970 Baja 1835cc |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12858 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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That carb is pretty simple, has the car been sitting for a while or did it just begin misbehaving? If it suddenly started doing this, check for fuel flow from the fuel pump by removing fuel line from carb & inserting it into a 1-2 liter bottle & have someone crank the car (this way you don't spray fuel all over the engine) . If you have fuel flow, check for a broken wire to the shut off solenoid at the bottom of the carb, it shuts off fuel to the idle circuit when you shut the ignition off. If the wire is fine, have someone turn the ignition on & off a couple times, the solenoid should click & you should be able to feel it open & close. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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tdonaldson Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2011 Posts: 580 Location: Columbus, OH
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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If you're able to get fuel pumping into a jug, and that shut off solenoid is working, just pull the top of your carb off. It's been a minute, so I can't describe it exactly, but it's about four screws. Nothing crazy should come flying out or anything. But with the very top plate off, you can make sure your float didn't get stuck (shutting down the valve to fill the bowl from the pump). Even if every jet on the carb is clogged, I think the accelerator pump on the 34-3 probably just pulls straight off the bowl.
If that solenoid is the issue, alot of folks just cut off the end of it. So the wire and body are still plugged in, screwed in, and you don't have a vacuum leak. But without the pushpin looking end of it shutting off fuel flow, you can drive while you wait for another in the mail.
If you don't have it the engine will 'diesel' (hit and sputter for 5-10 second) after you shut it off. _________________ "If you had a beer can in your hand the beer would have stopped it, alcohol is a natural force of good that keeps you from getting hurt, unless you're city people...." |
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uhall Samba Member
Joined: August 25, 2015 Posts: 11 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Samba Guys, Thanks for all your help. I found the problem.
EnjoytheR1de & TDCTDI, was right on. I took the fuel line off the fuel pump and cranked it over, and the gas was just trickling out. The gas would fill my fuel filter a little bit, but not enough to keep the buggy running.
I picked up a new fuel pump, and she is running like a new one.
Thanks again guys, Matt
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12858 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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CHECK THE OIL!!! If the diaphragm ruptured the fuel is pumped into the crank case & can damage the bearings. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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uhall Samba Member
Joined: August 25, 2015 Posts: 11 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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Ok I will do that. By the way what diaphram are you talking about? |
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enjoyther1de Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2010 Posts: 1279 Location: chino,ca
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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TDCTDI wrote: |
CHECK THE OIL!!! If the diaphragm ruptured the fuel is pumped into the crank case & can damage the bearings. |
X2!!!! The fuel pump diaphragm. If it broke it will leak gas into the block.. No Bueno. _________________ HBB took me to BBV. |
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