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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think you "need" to strip it much. You can remove it drum to drum, but it would be way more cumbersome and heavy as hell to drop if you did.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any tips/tricks on giving a little more ground clearance to the pitman arm?
What's everyone running super low doing for this? I'm not super low and the pitman arm is still pretty damn close to the ground.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any pics of lowered buses that have the standard width beam?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo96 wrote:
Any pics of lowered buses that have the standard width beam?

Take a look through these.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/search.php?search...ults=posts

Good luck
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dogo wrote:
Any tips/tricks on giving a little more ground clearance to the pitman arm?
What's everyone running super low doing for this? I'm not super low and the pitman arm is still pretty damn close to the ground.


From what I found no one did anything.

That didn't sit well with me so I raised my steering box. Didn't take that much of a raise but I have no worries now.

Plus if you're that low and tubbed a raised steering wheel to compensate for the tubs is nice.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a1steaksauce wrote:
Dogo wrote:
Any tips/tricks on giving a little more ground clearance to the pitman arm?
What's everyone running super low doing for this? I'm not super low and the pitman arm is still pretty damn close to the ground.


From what I found no one did anything.

That didn't sit well with me so I raised my steering box. Didn't take that much of a raise but I have no worries now.

Plus if you're that low and tubbed a raised steering wheel to compensate for the tubs is nice.


I figured that could be an option, but I was just hoping for something not so permanent and less involved (I assume you had to tweak the floor as well?)
I suppose no one tried cutting a chunk off of it, and making up for it at the steering arm? Does that even make sense.

... or flipping the pitman and steer left to turn right? Embarassed
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dogo wrote:
I figured that could be an option, but I was just hoping for something not so permanent and less involved (I assume you had to tweak the floor as well?)


no tweaking on the floor required. like i said it's not a huge raise that's required to gain the necessary clearance.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stock width beam, dropped spindles and adjusters
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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71 deluxe with 5.5 Fuchs on front with 165/50/15 and 6 on rear with 195/60/15
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

165/50r15 front
185/65r15 rear
5.5"x15" Fuchs front (real Fuchs)
6"x15" Fuchs rear (real deep 6 Fuchs)

custom made 15mm adaptors from 5x112 to 5x130
stock brakes front and rear

Front:
5" narrowed, 1"raised Wagenswest balljoint beam (the raise is lots of work but worth it as the beam sits up nice and high)
2.5" Wagenswest droppped spindles
Custom shock mounts to keep the shocks vertical rather than a goofy angle

Rear:
Adjustable dropped 22mm spring plates from Slamwerks (UK)
3.5" Horseshoe plates from Wagenswest
C notched and reinforced rear frame
Trimmed the bottom of the spring plate perch to allow tire to drop out inflated.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beautiful!

(and thanks for the earlybay.com-esque factual write up.)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anybody know if a 205/65 tyre would fit in the back of an earlybay running a 15" rim with et 25?
I think latebay arches are different and have more room, that's why I'm asking for early.
Most aftermarket rims like 356style, BRM, Empi and the like seem to have an offset of 15 or 20 to give you an idea.

Comments are greatly appreciated since trial fitting would be a huge hassle...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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195-40-17 front
225-45-17 rear
5 inch beam with drop spindles
2 inch front tubs
4.5 horse shoe plates
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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195-40-17 front
225-45-17 rear
5 inch beam with drop spindles
2 inch front tubs
4.5 horse shoe plates


That looks fantastic Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here's mine. Lowered, not slammed..

Front: frenchslammer 8cm narrow adjustable beam and dropped spindles. Beam is set right at the top of the adjusters. 185/55's on 5x16 ET39 steels, kyb gas adjust dampers. Tyres are load rated 87xl so correct spec for the weight of the bus, and give me a bit more room in the arch, no rubbing.
Rear: frenchslammer adjustable spring plates, 205/60's on 6x16 ET30 steels. Rears are load rated 96xl.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Earl Bay wrote:
Does anybody know if a 205/65 tyre would fit in the back of an earlybay running a 15" rim with et 25?
I think latebay arches are different and have more room, that's why I'm asking for early.
Most aftermarket rims like 356style, BRM, Empi and the like seem to have an offset of 15 or 20 to give you an idea.

Comments are greatly appreciated since trial fitting would be a huge hassle...


you might with those narrowed 4 inch drop plates i know with the 3.25 ones they probably won't i had a set of aluminum sprint stars on a 68 and it was tight with the 185/65 maybe a pinky gap without rolling the edge. now on a 71 i did phone dials and had an adapter with the 3.25 plates and i was running 195/65 and still had plenty of room because of the offset of the wheels.

you might try those steel sprint stars they come in different offset and they might fit better i was thinking about them myself for my panel i'm doing this winter.

btw has anyone tried out the federal 14 inch low profile tires yet i know you can get them now and i might go that route.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hey autohaus,

What's your tire and suspension setup? Hoping to run a very similar setup on my 71. Thanks
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a soon-to-be T2a Bay owner, I'm loving this thread!! Keep em coming

Thanks to all you guys posting the details of your setup
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Lowering a Bay Reply with quote

Working on my westy, bagged and tubbed in the rear and front shockwave ridetech shocks on a 3cm raise link-pin-beam. Boxster diskbrakes all around and rack-and-pinion power-steering:

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rear tubb and shocktower
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tubb inside
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Rear setup
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caster beam in progress
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Gearbox with wedle 4:57 ring and pinion, super diff and split bus rear mount (8cm lift Smile
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airbag cage:
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front notch for raise
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video:
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the complete build:
http://forum.earlybay.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=21827&p=558457#p558457

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