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DaBraink Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 11:43 am Post subject: Upright OEM spin on filter. |
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Was there an OEM spin on oil filter mounted on or near the gen/alt stand?
It appears to be on this video.
If so, how are the oil galleries routed and can this be adapted to DP, dual relief earlier cases?
https://youtu.be/NkJ-H1DvvTU
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vwracerdave Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: Upright OEM spin on filter. |
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No. It was an aftermarket kit.
They were a disaster. When you removed the filter oil poured everywhere. _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 33882 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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DaBraink Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:11 pm Post subject: Re: Upright OEM spin on filter. |
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Thanks, it seems to be a good option for fitment issues with exhaust and tin interference.
Did it work well and who offered it? I haven't seen many pics or posts on this, so I assume it wasn't that accepted. _________________ If it ain't broke.................find something else to fix.
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 33882 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:15 pm Post subject: Re: Upright OEM spin on filter. |
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A bypass filter only filters a fraction of the oil; most oil bypasses the filter (hence the name).
The preferred type is the "full flow" which filters 100% of the oil all the time. But it requires a special pump and external lines, and/or case modifications.
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rockerarm Samba Member
Joined: December 16, 2009 Posts: 3552 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:18 pm Post subject: Re: Upright OEM spin on filter. |
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Correct, the by-pass oil filter system only filters a very small amount, but at a finer method. The restrictor in my Baldwin B164 is about .032". Don't bad mouth the by-pass setup. 356/912's have the by-pass filter setup.
Many of our engines do not require much mod's to install. Tee off the oil pressure switch and the return can easily be at the type 3 block off plate or if using an additional sump, tapping is easy.
My DD bus uses a full flow, by-pass, and sump. Hey, I had the time and parts sourcing was easy.
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lolight70 Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2013 Posts: 160 Location: West Australia
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 4:42 pm Post subject: Re: Upright OEM spin on filter. |
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Are these rare ?
I had one once on an early bay window |
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SBD Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:49 am Post subject: Re: Upright OEM spin on filter. |
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lolight70 wrote: |
Are these rare ?
I had one once on an early bay window |
There was one on my car when I bought it a few years ago. I'm still using it.
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They were a disaster. When you removed the filter oil poured everywhere. |
Lay a rag on the pulley just below the filter. Then slip a plastic sack like the ones from Walmart over the filter. Quickly unscrew the filter into the bag and stand it up to minimize the amount of oil that spills out of it. The oil that does get out will be caught in the bag. Small drips from the filter mount will be caught on the rag. Very minimal mess. _________________ "Just $99 down and $64 a month for 36 months buys you a brand new Volkswagen Beetle!"
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56vwoval Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:08 am Post subject: Re: Upright OEM spin on filter. |
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Here is an old oil filter adapter I bought through JC Penny Catalog in the mid 70's. Took oil from pressure sensor location and returned the oil through a hollow bolt in the generator stand! _________________ Remember guys and girls, you can be right or you can be happy with your significant other! You decide which is right at that time! |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31268 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:34 am Post subject: Re: Upright OEM spin on filter. |
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SBD wrote: |
Lay a rag on the pulley just below the filter. Then slip a plastic sack like the ones from Walmart over the filter. Quickly unscrew the filter into the bag and stand it up to minimize the amount of oil that spills out of it. The oil that does get out will be caught in the bag. Small drips from the filter mount will be caught on the rag. Very minimal mess. |
I saw them on a few of our rental buggies back in mid-1970s.
I say raise up rear of VW when draining the oil, then when done under there lower the VW, the oil level in the filter will be below center, should then be able to be removed with minimal drippage.
When I had a vertical oil filter on my fan shroud, I used to bend a piece of aluminum foil to make a dam to catch the drips doing this, then just spin on new filter and through the messy foil away. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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