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skydivecarl Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2011 Posts: 2 Location: seattle
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:24 pm Post subject: How do I change automatic transmission fluid on 91 Vanagon |
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I hate to ask such a simple question, but I've searched the web, searched here, and even read through a PDF manual, and I cannot find out exactly where to change the automatic transmission fluid on a 91 vanagon.
I can see where the dipstick goes, and it attaches to a pan which has 4 bolts. But also, behind that there is another little pan type thing that has around 10-12 bolts. I'm guessing I just have to unscrew one and let it drain out, and most likely put in a new gasket, but I'm not sure which one is the right one? Also I'm not sure which one houses the filter, or if the filter even necessarily needs to be changed each time. Thanks. |
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GrindGarage Samba Member
Joined: October 14, 2008 Posts: 710 Location: Ocean City, NJ
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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the pan that has the dipstick / fill tube is the one you want to empty. You can remove that tube and let it drain. If you would like to change the filter you remove the pan.
I'm not a trans expert but if your trans has never been serviced and it has a good amount of miles, say around 100k leave it alone. I have seen transmissions of different types fail after a fluid / filter change. _________________ -cliff
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator
Joined: July 26, 2008 Posts: 7918 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:18 pm Post subject: Re: How do I change automatic transmission fluid on 91 Vanag |
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skydivecarl wrote: |
I can see where the dipstick goes, and it attaches to a pan which has 4 bolts. |
^That'd be for the ATF.
skydivecarl wrote: |
But also, behind that there is another little pan type thing that has around 10-12 bolts. |
^That'd be for the gear oil. Next time I ever have to change that stuff, I'm getting an extraction tool and sucking the fluid out of the refill hole. Taking a gear oil bath, despite being careful, is not fun. _________________ ~Kamz
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skydivecarl Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2011 Posts: 2 Location: seattle
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the help, I think I will just remove the dipstick tube, and drain some fluid, then replace the same amount of fluid and verify its level, sounds easy.
I'm not near the vehicle right now to look, Do you just put a wrench on the dipstick tube and turn?
Its got about 90K miles on it. The reason I'm changing is because although it seems to run pretty good overall, at the end of my last drive (a 100 mile one), there were a couple times when it felt like it was slipping a little bit. It was when accellerating from a red light, and turning, only going about 10mph, when it went to shift it seemed to slip a bit. |
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Bassyaks Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2010 Posts: 1137 Location: S.E. Connetitcut
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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Take it to a shop!! |
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jvan Samba Member
Joined: April 25, 2013 Posts: 162 Location: cascadia
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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If it's only a matter of removing the four bolts and or the tube to drain why take it to a shop if your willing to spend the time and patience? What are the unknowns for someone whose never done this or why would a transmission fail after a change of fluid and filter? _________________ tin top. |
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Terry Kay Banned
Joined: June 22, 2003 Posts: 13331
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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Change the filter, change the fluid, put Ford type F fluid back in it, your all done. _________________ T.K. |
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DubDzo Samba Member
Joined: November 18, 2011 Posts: 26 Location: Miami, Florida
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: How do I change automatic transmission fluid on 91 Vanag |
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when taking the pan out and putting the filter in. when you place the gasket to place the pan back in do you guys use rtv gasket sealant . or just use the replacement seal that comes with the kit bolt place the bolts back and thats it? |
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AtlasShrugged Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2008 Posts: 1605 Location: Decatur, Ga. USA
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 6:40 pm Post subject: Re: How do I change automatic transmission fluid on 91 Vanag |
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Our FAQs are a little tough to navigate..the answer is in there..but a very nice fellow (me) put a pictorial on changing the ATF and filter right here:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7674877#7674877 |
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DubNuts Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 6:47 pm Post subject: Re: How do I change automatic transmission fluid on 91 Vanag |
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Like Atlas shows in his post..
The Trans Oil pan has a large O-Ring type with a U shaped seal that half of it fits in the grove around the pan The U part fits to the Trans.
Clean the oil pan grove very well, and try to de grease it..
Get the new Trans O-Ring Seal and Pan warm in the Sunlight
Use Something like Permatex Super Tac and fit the Seal to the Pan, not excessive its not to seal anything just to help you keep the O/U Seal in place till you fit the pan to the Trans.
Place a board across the seal and Pan that covers the four corners. Place some weight on it to help hold the seal in place while it sets up a little.
Reason why is because once your laying under the Van trying to replace the Pan the new O-Ring Trans seal will want to roll out of place and unknowingly your tighten the four bolts and pinch the seal thus having a oil leak once you refill the fluid.. Trust me been there done that a few times..
When tighting the four bolts on each corner alternate corner to corner and don't over Tighten.. |
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wesitarz Samba Member
Joined: August 20, 2012 Posts: 1490 Location: Victoria,B.C.Canada
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="skydivecarl"]Thanks for the help, I think I will just remove the dipstick tube, and drain some fluid, then replace the same amount of fluid and verify its level, sounds easy.
I'm not near the vehicle right now to look, Do you just put a wrench on the dipstick tube and turn?
Yes. Loosen the nut,then pull it straight out. Drains about 3 litres.Push back in.Tighten. |
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Merian Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2014 Posts: 5212 Location: Orygun
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:24 pm Post subject: Re: How do I change automatic transmission fluid on 91 Vanag |
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you should change the filter, so need to drop the pan |
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Terry Kay Banned
Joined: June 22, 2003 Posts: 13331
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Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 7:25 am Post subject: |
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Change the filter, change the fluid, put Ford type F fluid back in it, your all done. _________________ T.K. |
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Merian Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2014 Posts: 5212 Location: Orygun
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Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Terry Kay wrote: |
Change the filter, change the fluid, put Ford type F fluid back in it, your all done. |
also repl. diff. fluid & inspect both for mixing
and then, you're all done |
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