Vehicle title requirements in North Carolina

[Digger89L]

Can anyone tell me what the vehicle title requirements are for registering and providing proof of ownership of a vehicle in the State of North Carolina? ..or direct me to some other source that can provide this for me? Thanks
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[TDCTDI]

Are you trying to register a modern car or an antique/collector car? The only paperwork you need for either one is the title. If the modern car is 1994 or newer, it would be subject to the annual safety and emissions inspection (the first year is waived for vehicles coming from out of state). If older than 1994 but newer than 35 years old then it only requires a safety inspection (there again waived the first year if coming from out of state). Vintage or antique vehicles have no safety or emissions inspection BUT will require a full cavity search at the license & theft department where they check the VIN, transmission & engine #s against a data base for stolen vehicles. They also take pencil tracings of these #s & a photograph of the vehicle for records. If any of these come back as stolen, the vehicle is either confiscated or the stolen components are removed at the on site shop (at least the local one).
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[Digger89L]

1964 VW, not running. I'm selling it to a guy in NC, and need to understand what kind of documentation he'll need to have in order to title / register it.
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[TDCTDI]

Then title only. A bill of sale wouldn't hurt but not required. You would only need to do the necessary paperwork to import into the country & make sure the title is signed by the owner EXACTLY as the name is written on the title FULL first name, middle (no abbreviations), and last (even though that is not how you normally sign your name) AND notarized if necessary on your title.
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[TDCTDI]

The cavity search would be enjoyed by the new owner.
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[TDCTDI]

And as a non-running vehicle, the title would be branded as non-op & would require another visit to the license & theft division once it running/driving.
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[Digger89L]

This is where some of the confusion arises: here in Canada we don't have vehicle 'titles' ....we have a Bill of Sale (agreement between seller and buyer). That is sufficient (even if its written on the back of a napkin) to take to a license issuer and have them issue a Vehicle Registration form, and a license plate. Since this vehicle is inoperable, I have never had it 'registered / licensed' ...all I have is the Bill of Sale from when I purchased it from the previous owner ....who also never had it registered. As far as I know, it hasn't been licensed for 30 years or more. So, is a "bill of sale", with my signature, the equivalent of a "title" ...?
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[TDCTDI]

NC requires a proper title, without it, the process is even more difficult. There are ways to get one by doing a "bonded title" or there is someone on another thread that walks you through how to get one (in Vermont maybe). I dislike the out of state process so much that I rarely go that route, I refuse to get involved with a no title situation (with the DMV, if the vehicle or any part is stolen, you are guilty until proven innocent). Your car must be one hell of a deal or extremely rare for someone to through all the hoops to transport, import, and title from that distance.
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[Digger89L]

You guys are talking in 'riddles' here .....is a "title" the same as a "bill of sale"??
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[TDCTDI]

[TDCTDI]

This is an example of a NC issued title, most states require one or some semblance there of , think of it as a deed for a vehicle. It is not the same as a bill of sale.
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[Digger89L]

Thanks for the clarification. The guy I'm selling the bug to would have to get this "Title" document ....its not something I'd have to supply. So ...what info does my buyer need from ME, so he can go and apply for a Title in his name?
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[TDCTDI]

If he doesn't know the process & he isn't the one making the effort to research it, he really shouldn't be contemplating purchasing a non running vehicle from another country.
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An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.


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[TDCTDI]

I'm sure there is some sort of paperwork necessary to import the vehicle from Canada along with duty fees before it gets into the country, have either of you researched that yet?
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[jspbtown]

Just to offer you some general clarity.

In the States you have a title to a vehicle to prove ownership. Many states do not recognize anything other than a title. So when you sell a car in the States you sign the back of the title and the new owner takes that signed title and applies for a new title in his name from his state.

Without a signed title (not a bill of sale) many states do not recognize your true ownership in the vehicle and therefore do not allow the transaction to occur.

Now as one poster mentioned their may be other ways to get this done via the import/export rules of Canada. Although I think importing older cars from Canada that are "parts" (ie: non-operational) is not that difficult. I brought an old kit car in from Canada and I just had to fill out some paperwork.

So to generally answer your question......I think it might be very hard for the new buyer to title the car in NC without a signed title from you. That being said...if you sell it to him with a Bill of Sale stating that "All title and registration requirements are the sole responsibility of the buyer" and he assumes that risk then sell away.

[Digger89L]

All good points. Thanks. The point I was trying to make is, we don't have an equivelant document to your "Title" document. The closest would be our "registration" document (when cops stop you here in Canada, they ask you for your Drivers License, and Registration) ....which I can't provide because the vehicle is not registered / licensed.

The importation documents will be the responsibility of the buyer, so not too concerned there.
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[Q-Dog]

Out of curiosity I did an internet search for "Canada Automobile Title" and the very first link that came up answered your questions, and even said what documents need to be supplied by both parties to import a Canadian vehicle into the US.

Give it a try!
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[Digger89L]

Appreciate the response, but it was not really helpful. Using that search "canada automobile title" brings up all sorts of inconclusive information ..in the first dozen or so links. You might as well have said: "you can find the information on the internet". And, of course, I already knew that (and had tried that).

We have a similar situation up here as you guys down south: you have 50 states, we have 10 provinces. And, like down there, every province does things a little differently ....so, what applies in Ontario (for example) will not necessarily apply in Saskatchewan, etc. etc. (and in this case, does not)

I found a phone number for Transport Canada, and will try calling again tomorrow. (you would not believe how incredibly difficult it is to find a phone number for federal government department up here, and then find an English-speaking human being to talk to!) One of the basic questions to ask: am I exporting a car to the USA, or is the US buyer importing a car from Canada? Simple as that sounds, I still haven't had a clear answer on that!
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