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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 7:39 pm    Post subject: A little smoke from the oil filler and breather tube Reply with quote

This has been bugging me so I thought I'd post the question here: I'm seeing some light colored smoke/vapor from the oil filler and the breather tube after even short runs. It's an early '62, so no hose connecting the breather and air cleaner. The engine is freshly rebuilt with just 300 miles. Valves and timing are spot on, runs maybe a little on the warm side but not overheating, no oil light flickering. I just drained the oil immediately after a drive and the oil itself wasn't smoking hot. I've read all the breather smoke related forum posts and it looks like the possibilities are:

1. blow-by caused by bad rings
2. crankcase pressure too high
3. gas in the oil
4. not fully broken in yet
5. totally normal

The cylinders/pistons/rings are new and the oil doesn't smell obviously gassy. I'm thinking it's normal. What say you?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At only 300 miles, your rings probably have a few more miles before they have been broken in. Until the rings are seated, you will have blow by, and that is probably what you are seeing. keep an eye on you oil level, and see what happens after 1000 miles.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the previous poster- until break- in is complete, there's no point in worrying about these things. Even then, if oil consumption is negligible, I wouldn't worry about "steam" from the dipstick or breather- that's pretty normal. You don't notice it as much on the later engines because they are vented better.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. I'll just keep an eye on things and keep driving.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:21 pm    Post subject: Re: A little smoke from the oil filler and breather tube Reply with quote

At 1000 miles this is still happening. I'm also noticing a few oil leaks from unusual places, like the base of the breather tower. I think the crankcase pressure is too high -- maybe the combination of an early inadequate breather system and 85.5 P/Cs? Not sure if this is something that I should worry about or not... Confused
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:29 pm    Post subject: Re: A little smoke from the oil filler and breather tube Reply with quote

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At 1000 miles this is still happening. I'm also noticing a few oil leaks from unusual places, like the base of the breather tower. I think the crankcase pressure is too high -- maybe the combination of an early inadequate breather system and 85.5 P/Cs? Not sure if this is something that I should worry about or not... Confused


If the CC pressure is really too high it will pop the breather cap off in my experience, and leak oil absolutely everywhere. You likely just have a leak at the base of the breather.

How much oil have you used at 1000 miles? What oil are you running?

I'm still voting with #5
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:52 pm    Post subject: Re: A little smoke from the oil filler and breather tube Reply with quote

No unusual oil use. I never had to add any and it's been within the normal dipstick range. I'm using Valvoline VR1 20/50. I used Brad Penn 30wt for initial break in.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:29 am    Post subject: Re: A little smoke from the oil filler and breather tube Reply with quote

Normal. All engines breathe a little...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:33 am    Post subject: Re: A little smoke from the oil filler and breather tube Reply with quote

I think 20/50 is a little much for a fresh engine and LA weather. I'd try 10/30
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:56 am    Post subject: Re: A little smoke from the oil filler and breather tube Reply with quote

Very light oil and moisture vapor is common from virtually every engine when you open the oil cap right after shutdown when the oil is fully warmed up. The more outside humidity...the more vapor.

My 2012 Golf even does it. Ray
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:22 pm    Post subject: Re: A little smoke from the oil filler and breather tube Reply with quote

VWCOOL wrote:
Normal. All engines breathe a little...
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This.

Oh, and don't ever buy an old Mercedes Diesel... you'll die of unease! Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 8:38 pm    Post subject: Re: A little smoke from the oil filler and breather tube Reply with quote

All right then. Laughing Thanks for the advice everyone. I may switch to 10/30 just to see if there's any difference. 10/30 VR1 is just a little harder to find.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:48 am    Post subject: Re: A little smoke from the oil filler and breather tube Reply with quote

Amazon?

http://www.amazon.com/Valvoline-VV205-6PK-10W-30-Racing-Motor/dp/B00DJ4FMK2
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: A little smoke from the oil filler and breather tube Reply with quote

Yeah, that's where I've bought it before.
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