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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:28 pm    Post subject: Door check strap hole into body on a 1946 Reply with quote

I am looking for some advice on the shape or possibly miss-shape of the hole where the door check strap enters the body. Mine are misshaped but maybe because the inner and outer holes did not match up well at the time of production.

Any pictures of others would be great, maybe they will help with one of the last jobs for my metal fabricator to correct before the body work is completed.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Door check strap hole into body on a 1946 Reply with quote

I've just sent you some pictures from my 47, on which you'll see that what you describe is original, even if it doesn't seem quite right.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Door check strap hole into body on a 1946 Reply with quote

Thanks Martin, I've looked at the pics, they show the slots not as badly misshaped as on my car.

Anyone else out there willing to help out with this query please?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Door check strap hole into body on a 1946 Reply with quote

How about posting pictures here in the thread rather than privately to help people who have the same question in the future???
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:34 am    Post subject: Re: Door check strap hole into body on a 1946 Reply with quote

OK Chris now I have found my pictures I will post them.

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Left door pillar, as you see the outer slot looks to have clean edges that indicate that the original hole was nearer the centre of the car than the slot in the inner metalwork. The rather crude reshaping of the hole on the outer edge looks to have been necessary to align them to insert the check strap.
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This is the right pillar with the same indications as the left side.

Has anyone else seen similar problems on early cars?

I would love to see the exact shape of these holes so that my metal fabricator can re-make mine correctly.

Please don't tell me that the hinge screws are wrong, I know that should be slotted, these are just temporary during the rebuild.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:08 am    Post subject: Re: Door check strap hole into body on a 1946 Reply with quote

Hi Rod,

Here's mine, the pics aren't great but you can see the outers on mine are also mis-shaped either through wear or as you suggest done at the factory?

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mine will be staying as is, resto is on for Hessisch.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:33 am    Post subject: Re: Door check strap hole into body on a 1946 Reply with quote

Thanks Kev, as you say yous look very like mine.

Any more examples out there please.

Kev, if that's your '47 you have plenty to do before HO17!

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:33 am    Post subject: Re: Door check strap hole into body on a 1946 Reply with quote

My August 48:

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Door check strap hole into body on a 1946 Reply with quote

Sorry yes it's my 47. And yes you are right, lots to do Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:56 am    Post subject: Re: Door check strap hole into body on a 1946 Reply with quote

Who says the door screws should be slotted?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:13 am    Post subject: Re: Door check strap hole into body on a 1946 Reply with quote

Well from memory the originals were, they should be part number N10 915 Screw countersunk M6 x 15 DIN 63. Sorry Martin no time at present to look up DIN 63.

Martin, note the edit, they are M6 NOT M8 finger trouble!!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:34 am    Post subject: Re: Door check strap hole into body on a 1946 Reply with quote

OK. I can see DIN 63 here: http://documents.mx/documents/din-63.html Oddly, I know where I can get this type of screw, and so will buy some, just in case!

Strange, as those on my 47 were of the 'Philips', double slot type, and would have appeared to have been original, but as we all know, anything is possible, & we keep learning all of the time.
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