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bustedtype2 Samba Member
Joined: May 07, 2005 Posts: 417 Location: The arm pit of california
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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:09 pm Post subject: Spark plug wires Type 4? |
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Just got a 73 high top bus. Type 4 eng. The wires are bad. Why can't I find any on line? Or at the local VW parts store. Mine are cracked and broken at the plug.
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 21512 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:31 pm Post subject: Re: Spark plug wires Type 4. ???? Help |
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I found some in the blink of an eye at rockauto. The standard motor products wires....get copper core ones....are very good. So are the Beck arnley tinned copper core wires. Also NGK solid core wire sets when you can find them are excellent.
They (NGK) list a part # of RC-VWC020 and a stock #57403. Lots of wires out there. Ray |
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Vanapplebomb Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2010 Posts: 5409 Location: Holland, MI
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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:56 am Post subject: Re: Spark plug wires Type 4? |
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Autozone, duralast gold. These are the only type 4 plugs that I have found which still come with the good sealed plug ends. Bosch cheaped out a few years ago and quit selling them with the seals. The autozone duralast gold plugs have Beru plug ends. Beru was an original equipment supplier for VW. German, high quality. Not the biggest fan of the cooling tin air seals because they are stiffer than some others, but they do work. $40. Can't go wrong.
_________________ 1800 Type 4 Berrien 295
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 21512 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:59 pm Post subject: Re: Spark plug wires Type 4? |
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Vanapplebomb wrote: |
Autozone, duralast gold. These are the only type 4 plugs that I have found which still come with the good sealed plug ends. Bosch cheaped out a few years ago and quit selling them with the seals. The autozone duralast gold plugs have Beru plug ends. Beru was an original equipment supplier for VW. German, high quality. Not the biggest fan of the cooling tin air seals because they are stiffer than some others, but they do work. $40. Can't go wrong.
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Wow!...Those look nice! Thank you for the heads up! Ray |
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Vanapplebomb Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2010 Posts: 5409 Location: Holland, MI
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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:23 pm Post subject: Re: Spark plug wires Type 4? |
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Auto parts stores don't like me because I buy a dozen products or more, then return all but one after checking them out...like the time I bought 30+ wheel cylinders for bugs and returned all but the Italian CiFam cylinders from Napa after checking out quality control, etc. Haha. I did the same with plug wires. Got Some Bosch, autozone and Napa house brands, etc. probably 7 or 8 sets in all. Checked them out for general quality feel and measured them to check resistances. Dispite the stiffer cooling air seals, the autozone duralast gold were definetly the better plug wire sets in my opinion. Long plugs about 1.4kohms, short ones about 1kohms. It comes with two primary wire lengths, both resistive. Short one about 3.2kohms, long one about 5.5kohms. Also in the box was a section of plastic wire loom that can be cut to lengths where needed to protect wires that may run against and wear on anything. Also a handy pack of dielectric grease. If you have a set of soft tuber cooling air seals, you could remove the stiffer ones and replace them. Then you would have a fantastic wire set. But like I said, the stiffer ones that come with them do work. _________________ 1800 Type 4 Berrien 295
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Vanapplebomb Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2010 Posts: 5409 Location: Holland, MI
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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:48 pm Post subject: Re: Spark plug wires Type 4? |
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Some close up shots of the lot that comes in the box. You can see the resistances of all six wires and their construction. Plug leads have German Beru ends and solid wire cores. Primary leads have a poly/carbon resistive core.
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Kharon8 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2011 Posts: 375 Location: Espoo, Finland
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 11:43 am Post subject: Re: Spark plug wires Type 4? |
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Just a side note here: Beru is also OEM for BMW ignition parts.
Usually expensive but good. (Like $50 for a distributor cap for my BMW.) _________________ Kharon -- '62 typ1, '63 typ14, '61 typ21, '65 typ34, '74 412, '75 typ26
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Vanapplebomb Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2010 Posts: 5409 Location: Holland, MI
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:00 pm Post subject: Re: Spark plug wires Type 4? |
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I feel obligated to post this here based on a recent encounter with a fellow who was fighting a misfire.
Guys, you need to remove the spark plug stud nuts if the plugs came equipped with them!
The plug ends have a spring steel wire that compresses against the threaded stud. This makes a solid positive connection from the wire to the spark plug. The plug ends will not fit spark plugs with the nut over the stud. It is too large for the plug ends. Instead of the spring steel wire snapping around the threaded stud, the end of the plug end kinda butts up against the spark plug but. Sure it will work when the rubber plug end holds it in place so they butt together, but when it starts working its way off eventually the gap will be so great that the spark won't be able to jump from the plug end to the spark plug nut... In this case, it caused his misfire.
If your spark plugs have the nut over the stud, removing it is easy. Grip the nut in a pliers, vice grips, vice, etc...
And then simply unthread the spark plug from the nut. It shouldn't take much force. You can throw away the nut. It isn't used on these plug wires.
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kirk knighton Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2005 Posts: 282 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: Spark plug wires Type 4? |
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I've gotten mine at bughaus.com
Although they are currently "not available" there, so I checked Amazon and they ARE! |
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Vanapplebomb Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2010 Posts: 5409 Location: Holland, MI
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 4:47 pm Post subject: Re: Spark plug wires Type 4? |
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kirk knighton wrote: |
I've gotten mine at bughaus.com
Although they are currently "not available" there, so I checked Amazon and they ARE! |
What make? Did they come with the rubber spark plug seals, or have they gone the way of Bosch and stopped using them? If they came with the rubber spark plug seals, I would be interested in checking them out. It would be cool to do a head to head with the Duralast wire set I got that have the Beru plug ends. _________________ 1800 Type 4 Berrien 295
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