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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:38 pm    Post subject: Re: 1963 15 window deluxe restoration Reply with quote

@ StockNazi: Okay, thank you for your explanation. It might have been nice original paint. I know there is always much discussion about that topic but I personally prefer a good quality repainting.

@ AS350driver: Great! Best regards from a EC135 and former EC120 driver. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:06 pm    Post subject: Re: 1963 15 window deluxe restoration Reply with quote

Volker, it always amazes me how many aviation folks are attracted to air cooled Vw's.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:24 am    Post subject: Re: 1963 15 window deluxe restoration Reply with quote

Does anybody know why they forgot to add weights and year of construction to my chassis plate?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:35 am    Post subject: Re: 1963 15 window deluxe restoration Reply with quote

I think your chassis plate is correct. my 6/63 15 window looks the same.
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do you have the M Plate behind the passenger seat? That will give you the info. that you are looking for. Here is mine. Unfortunately I sold it a few years ago. Crying or Very sad
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enjoy your bus. Looking forward to seeing it painted!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:24 am    Post subject: Re: 1963 15 window deluxe restoration Reply with quote

@ Dana: Thanks! Seems they didn`t add that information to the chassis plates in those months. I know when my bus was built, I just wondered why there is no date on the chassis plate.
Bus paint is finished, I will upload some pictures in one or two weeks.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:23 pm    Post subject: Re: 1963 15 window deluxe restoration Reply with quote

My '63 15-Window is like that too
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 1:19 pm    Post subject: Re: 1963 15 window deluxe restoration Reply with quote

@ Everett: Thank you, too!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:27 pm    Post subject: Re: 1963 15 window deluxe restoration Reply with quote

Volker H. wrote:
Does anybody know why they forgot to add weights and year of construction to my chassis plate?

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I noticed your VIN # is 1144277

This looks like one of the last 15-Windows made?
What's the day in July on your M-code plate?

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I see you posted about this here
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=621849
and the date is July 12th.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:36 am    Post subject: Re: 1963 15 window deluxe restoration Reply with quote

On the weekend I could bring the bus home.

My further steps:

- install the wires
- install the axles and the gearbox
- proceed with the cloth around the windows - should be installed before the window rubber, correct?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:05 am    Post subject: Re: 1963 15 window deluxe restoration Reply with quote

sehr huebsch

should a 63 not have the pressing above the rear hatch door handle?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:23 am    Post subject: Re: 1963 15 window deluxe restoration Reply with quote

Volker H. wrote:
- proceed with the cloth around the windows - should be installed before the window rubber, correct?

First - It looks great!

Yes on the headliner, it's wrapped around the window openings a little bit.

mandraks wrote:
should a 63 not have the pressing above the rear hatch door handle?

No pressing for this year and model.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:24 am    Post subject: Re: 1963 15 window deluxe restoration Reply with quote

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mandraks wrote:
should a 63 not have the pressing above the rear hatch door handle?

No pressing for this year and model.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:18 pm    Post subject: Re: 1963 15 window deluxe restoration Reply with quote

Just one more question concerning the headliner. I`ve been searching the net for some weeks now, but don`t find a solution. The headliner that came with the bus (but dismounted) is a white perforated one. I´m not sure if it`s the original headliner.
Having read some threads in here I guess the headliner should be iceblue. If I look at Everett`s 15 window bus, also turqoise, nearly the same production date, I see a cloth without perforation. What can I buy in order to stay as original als possible?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:25 pm    Post subject: Re: 1963 15 window deluxe restoration Reply with quote

Boy, that bus turned out beautiful.. Did you buy it locally in Germany or did it come back home from the USA?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 4:04 pm    Post subject: Re: 1963 15 window deluxe restoration Reply with quote

Volker H. wrote:
Just one more question concerning the headliner. I`ve been searching the net for some weeks now, but don`t find a solution. The headliner that came with the bus (but dismounted) is a white perforated one. I´m not sure if it`s the original headliner.
Having read some threads in here I guess the headliner should be iceblue. If I look at Everett`s 15 window bus, also turqoise, nearly the same production date, I see a cloth without perforation. What can I buy in order to stay as original als possible?

Yes, it should be cloth.

It's very possible that the vinyl perforated one is a replacement headliner, maybe even done by the dealer for the owner. I have seen some other Deluxes, both 23-Window and 15-Windows that had replacement headliners that were the vinyl type.

Yes, I believe it should be Ice Blue.

Someone just started making Ice Blue headliners. Ad:
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:26 am    Post subject: Re: 1963 15 window deluxe restoration Reply with quote

@ wcfvw69: Thanks, I´m glad to have chosen the original color - it`s just beautiful. To answer you question: Both! Very Happy The bus spent it`s time 1963 til 2014 in the states and was reimported. In 2015 I could buy it here in Germany.

@ Everett: Thank you very much! So I guess I´ll go for that iceblue one if I can afford it. The well known dealers always write about mid `63 as a change in headliner style, VIN 1101163. I couldn`t find out differences on later models. Same with the door panel kits in phosphor/como green. For example WW offers them for early, mid and late `63 buses, but many dealers here in Europe just offer one of them, mostly the mid `63 version whereas my bus is a late `63. But what are the differences? Anybody any idea?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:35 am    Post subject: Re: 1963 15 window deluxe restoration Reply with quote

Volker H. wrote:
@ Everett: Thank you very much! So I guess I´ll go for that iceblue one if I can afford it. The well known dealers always write about mid `63 as a change in headliner style, VIN 1101163.

I have never heard this before.
This VIN # is the middle of April. 1963
My brother's May, 1963 15-Window also had the original cloth headliner when he bought it.

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Same with the door panel kits in phosphor/como green. For example WW offers them for early, mid and late `63 buses, but many dealers here in Europe just offer one of them, mostly the mid `63 version whereas my bus is a late `63. But what are the differences? Anybody any idea?

The only thing I can think of is that the "long panel" for the interior, the one large panel that runs down the driver's side of the Bus with 2 arm rests, has a slightly different shape and length because of the change to inward-pointed engine vents.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:21 am    Post subject: Re: 1963 15 window deluxe restoration Reply with quote

@ Everett: Thanks again, nice to have someone who owns a similar bus and can give information about the original condition. The change of the vents could be a reason for the different interior panels, good point!
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