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mcdonaldneal Samba Member
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paul_round Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 7:44 am Post subject: Re: Late 1969 Ghia vert preservation/ restoration |
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What's the plan for the paint, is it just a re-fresh or will it be a full on paint job? |
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mcdonaldneal Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 7:55 am Post subject: Re: Late 1969 Ghia vert preservation/ restoration |
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paul_round wrote: |
What's the plan for the paint, is it just a re-fresh or will it be a full on paint job? |
Definitely not a repaint Paul, the paint is almost all original and in pretty good condition. The front trunk has pretty bad paint damage and rusting, probably related to a leak from the brake reservoir. The rust is superficial, but I thought it was worth getting a pro to to a good job on a respray of that area. That way it's protected but, as it will be hidden by the trunk liner, won't be visible and so will preserve the 'survivor' vibe I'm (sort of!) aiming for. There isn't anywhere else that needs attention, but I will get him to repaint the bumper iron covers because they were badly rusted and wouldn't have lasted long without something to protect them.
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1976 martini olive Bay Dormobile camper
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mcdonaldneal Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 1:26 pm Post subject: Re: Late 1969 Ghia vert preservation/ restoration |
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Slightly frustrating news. The Kombi is going to take a bit longer in paint, because there has been difficulty in getting the panels to colour match, so the guy is going to spray the whole side.
Bottom line is that there won't be enough time to swap the Ghia over when the Kombi is done and get it back before the big diary date, which is the KGOC(UK) annual International rally, which is being held in Scotland (in June).
Soooo, I've decided to delay the whole front trunk paintwork until the Autumn and put the car back together again. It's a pain, because I could have done this months ago if I'd known, but there you go!
So, today I put some adhesive foam tape on the underside edge of the fuel tank, ready for it to go back in.
Then I fed back in the brass/copper tubing that houses the control wires for the fresh air vents. What a pain! It basically has to feed in through the passenger side window, through the glove box, and weave in, under and over various wires and tubes in the correct order. Incredibly fiddly, but got it done eventually.
Last off, I used some wiring from a spare harness I have to create an extension to the bundle that comes from the right headlamp, which will help to make the wiring a bit tidier when it all goes back together.
The other thing I've been doing these last few days is converting a plastic glovebox to accept the cable hood release (we've always had an aftermarket pull knob, which looked terrible, and didn't work very well!) It is also going to be painted, to make it look a bit more like the cardboard original, but I'll post up the whole process when I've done! _________________ 1978 marino yellow Bay Dormobile camper
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mcdonaldneal Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: Late 1969 Ghia vert preservation/ restoration |
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I decided to utilise the black ABS plastic box. It's solid, fits well, and will give a good base for the bonnet release.
I figured I could paint it a similar colour, but painting straight onto plastic can be problematic. The plasitkote and similar plastic paints did not have a colour anywhere near original and the textured, stone effect finish I also saw did not seem like it would wear well under use. I did find a plastic primer though, which would allow a wider range of colour choice.
First though, I wanted to prepare the shell for the fixings. The release lever needs a fairly large hole to fit through and measuring to try and make it as small as possible still meant that I had to enlarge it before the lever fits in place.
Got there eventually though, and drilled holes for screw headed bolts (the original has pop rivets, but the bolts will be tighter).
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1976 martini olive Bay Dormobile camper
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mcdonaldneal Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 1:34 pm Post subject: Re: Late 1969 Ghia vert preservation/ restoration |
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Next, there needs to be a clamp for the cable sheath. I had two, so figured I would use them both together to make things more secure.
The clamp has a tab that fits through a slot in the shell, and a bolt hole to tighten the clamp.
The clamps I have are fractionally different sizes, so each needed a personalised pair of slot and holes. I had the idea of sharing a bolt hole between the release lever plate and the sheath clamp.
Annoyingly though, having the clamp so close to the lever meant that the control wire is bent quite sharply, which I thought would make the action stiff and prone to failure.
Measure twice, drill once?
So, made another slot and hole for the clamp. Much better!
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1976 martini olive Bay Dormobile camper
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mcdonaldneal Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: Late 1969 Ghia vert preservation/ restoration |
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So, getting there!
Next step was to sand smooth the new holes and lightly prep the whole shell with ?240 grit sandpaper.
Sprayed a first coat of the plastic primer and, infuriatingly, although the aerosol lid is grey, the primer is clear, so I laid it on too heavy and got a run on the inside.
Sanded that away and sprayed at least two coats of the primer, inside and out, leaving it 24hrs between coats.
Then, a slow few days spraying with the final colour; inside, outside, leave to dry for a day and then repeat. Probably four thin coats overall.
Quite happy with the look overall. Not exactly like the original, but at least it won't draw attention to itself like before!
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1969 signal orange Karmann Ghia convertible
1976 martini olive Bay Dormobile camper
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 4:45 pm Post subject: Re: Late 1969 Ghia vert preservation/ restoration |
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: Late 1969 Ghia vert preservation/ restoration |
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Great stuff! I had wondered about dealing with this myself, thought about some kind of flocking or cardboard mache to paste over it. This solution looks great. _________________ Air does not freeze. Air does not boil.
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mcdonaldneal Samba Member
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mcdonaldneal Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 4:41 am Post subject: Re: Late 1969 Ghia vert preservation/ restoration |
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I've been out of action for a few weeks. Shona had been unwell and was in hospital with pneumonia, but is slowly getting better.
We both went out to the Ghia today to see if it's feasible to get it on the road and through its MOT road worthiness test before the KGOC international meet in Scotland in two weeks time.
The main things are electrical, steering alignment, glovebox and trunk release, and reinstalling the bumpers.
We swapped out a dud headlamp relay, wired up and reinstalled the wiper motor, and fitted the glovebox...
The deadline really hinges on how much free time I have in the next couple of weeks, but I'll see how things go!
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1976 martini olive Bay Dormobile camper
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mcdonaldneal Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: Late 1969 Ghia vert preservation/ restoration |
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Managed to get back to the car later today, with a big list of things to do!
It will be familiar to anyone who has reassembled bits of Volkswagen, but of course, nothing went smoothly!
I tried to take the car out of the garage, and it wouldn't start. After a systematic track down, I found that the trigger wire from the ignition to the starter had become disconnected. Sorted, and then gave the paintwork that is normally hidden by the bumpers a wash, polish and wax.
Then, took a deep breath and spent a fiddly hour installing and trimming to length the new bonnet release cable. The worst bit was the roll pin that attaches the cable to the release lever couldn't be pushed into place until I disassembled the whole bloody lever and clamp assembly and fed it through into the cockpit! (See pics!)
Then a steady succession of installing the gauges and instruments, and tracing the wiring, and reconnecting the terminals that I had knocked off
Definitely made a lot of progress, hampered only by tracing the blown fuse that was stopping the hazard flashers from working (guaranteed MOT failure, that one!)
Tired and stiff. It's time for bed!
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1969 signal orange Karmann Ghia convertible
1976 martini olive Bay Dormobile camper
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NOVA Airhead Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:56 am Post subject: Re: Late 1969 Ghia vert preservation/ restoration |
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One thing you may want to consider is a back up release for the hood. I have a wire that goes around the catch through a small opening at the inside of the passenger front fender. Its tucked way up there but can be reached in the event the glove box release does not do it - its happened to me. _________________ Ghia Owner Emeritus |
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mcdonaldneal Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:32 am Post subject: Re: Late 1969 Ghia vert preservation/ restoration |
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NOVA Airhead wrote: |
One thing you may want to consider is a back up release for the hood. I have a wire that goes around the catch through a small opening at the inside of the passenger front fender. Its tucked way up there but can be reached in the event the glove box release does not do it - its happened to me. |
Thanks NOVA, definitely considering it!
More or less finished the rewiring today. As you might imagine, it doesn't look a whole lot different from when I took it apart, but it does more closely follow the wiring diagram now!
One problem is the flasher relay. The hazard flashers work, but when I turn them off, the regular clicking sound continues...?
Then, when I do the direction indicators, the light stays on solid.
It seems intermittent, could the flasher relay be going bad?
Tips appreciated... _________________ 1978 marino yellow Bay Dormobile camper
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1976 martini olive Bay Dormobile camper
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NOVA Airhead Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:50 am Post subject: Re: Late 1969 Ghia vert preservation/ restoration |
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It could be as simple as some crud in the relay.
If its an original unit carefully pry it apart and give it a cleaning. I use "Tuner Cleaner" which one used back in the days when televisions had a dial for changing the channels (and you had to get up go over to the television and change the channel).
It may be a bit hard to find these days. I used to buy it here in the US at Radio Shack stores - but they are gone, at least where I live. Perhaps you can find it online. _________________ Ghia Owner Emeritus |
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paul_round Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:03 am Post subject: Re: Late 1969 Ghia vert preservation/ restoration |
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I think that's what we in the UK call 'contact cleaner' |
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mcdonaldneal Samba Member
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paul_round Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:40 pm Post subject: Re: Late 1969 Ghia vert preservation/ restoration |
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Carbon tetrachloride used to be the go to for this before it was banned. |
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mcdonaldneal Samba Member
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