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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, tschroeder0, that gives me some food for thought. A quick question: my engine is a 1997 model; will the ABS goo still be relevant to my engine? Thanks a lot.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure!
To mu knowledge in 97 some of the "sport" models did have abs, so, possibly.

The other question of my own related to this issue that maybe someone can answer. Does anyone know how the Neutral switch is delt with? I have always wondered if the various idle/vss issues may have something to do with that switch?
I have always had an idle on my 99 2.2 that wants to pull itself back down to a quite low idle no mater what I do, I feel that all of these issues are interconnected in some way?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tschroeder0 wrote:
......the code related to no vss signal is P0500,



FWIW on my 1999 2.5 the no VSS signal condition caused codes
1507
1100
1101

Once VSS was properly present these codes were gone

The results of these codes include

engine dying when coming to a stop (since the engine doesn't know to increase idle / stop relying on momentum to keep the revs up)

cutting out at speed - like at a continual cruise at 70 the engine reduces output, loses response to incresing throttle, and requires a release of the throttle to allow increasing throttle to work again

bad mpg (like 8mpg) once in what I think others have called "limp mode"

also FWIW, my VSS journey got me to this $3 VSS solution that reads actual speed so, among other things, it is useful with a cruise http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=613930&highlight=vss
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

those codes are related to idle control, neutral switch, starter switch...which again makes me wonder about how the neutral switch wiring is delt with.
I am going to take a look at mine tomorrow just to see, I did not do my harness so I am not quite sure.

nice work on the vss and sorry for hijacking this a bit.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard of folks using the switch on the parking brake to simulate the neutral signal. I'm not sure if most converters even connect that wire. I know it was not important on the OBD1 conversions.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use the parking brake to trigger the neutral signal on my OBD1 conversion. It changes the idle speed as soon as the parking brake is dropped.
There are directions on how to hook it up here somewhere here and on the subaruvanagon yahoo group. It has been too long since I did it that I don't remember exactly what I did.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=607954
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for that, I am curious, do you know what exactly it is doing? is it applicable to later obd2.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2016 6:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Writeup: DIY Subaru speed sensor simulator Reply with quote

Not sure if anybody is still interested in the cheap hack but I was able to use an arduino pro mini with a few lines of code to fool the ECU.

The idea is that it sends a pulse between 32hz and 96hz for 2 seconds then picks a new one. Its a simple loop, here is the code I used.

void setup() {
}

void loop() {
tone(10, random(32,96));
delay(2000);
}


The output is on pin 10.
this is a link to the arduino I used and you will need an FTDI programmer to load the coad from USB

http://www.ebay.com/itm/172078431585?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


Works for now I will post more information or an update if anyone is interested.
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