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 Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 8:10 am Post subject: Lifted Early Westy |
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My new project. Needs a lot of love and a little advise from the bay forum. 
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:00 am Post subject: Re: Lifted Early Westy |
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looks ready to geoland in asia 
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:50 am Post subject: Re: Lifted Early Westy |
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| notchboy wrote: |
| Sweet. What do you know about its present altitude? |
Wagenswest lift spindles and flipped horseshoe plates. Coil over front shocks (those will be replaced, not sure with what yet). 215/75's on ugly 15" wheels with too much offset. I have a set of split bus 15's for it, hoping to jam 235/75's up front and 30x9.50's in the rear.
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borninabus
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:43 pm Post subject: Re: Lifted Early Westy |
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oh jesus
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:10 pm Post subject: Re: Lifted Early Westy |
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| any modifications to the CV joints? If they're stock ones, are they maxxed out? Clicking? |
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GTV
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:17 pm Post subject: Re: Lifted Early Westy |
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| any modifications to the CV joints? If they're stock ones, are they maxxed out? Clicking? |
From what the PO told me they are stock axles and CV's. He said he turned the torsion bars up two outer clicks as well. They do make some noise. My theory is to run a taller tire in the rear, then adjust the torsions back down some to make it sit level and reduce the CV angle at the same time. Make sense?
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:18 pm Post subject: Re: Lifted Early Westy |
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| borninabus wrote: |
oh jesus
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Don't be jelly Peter Man! 
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:26 pm Post subject: Re: Lifted Early Westy |
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So shes a runner then?
Whats the plans? Other than the tire/shock refinements. Make her less stumpjumper esk?
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: Lifted Early Westy |
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| GTV wrote: |
| My theory is to run a taller tire in the rear, then adjust the torsions back down some to make it sit level and reduce the CV angle at the same time. Make sense? |
gotcha, that does make sense |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:36 pm Post subject: Re: Lifted Early Westy |
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| notchboy wrote: |
So shes a runner then?
Whats the plans? Other than the tire/shock refinements. Make her less stumpjumper esk? |
It is a runner. Has a fairly fresh 1776 with Kads. The plan is to refine it, give it a little curb appeal, dial in the mechanicals and try to go camping before the summer is over. Needs a lot of interior help, exhaust and engine tweeks, a rear bumper, etc. It's pretty rough all over right now.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:41 am Post subject: Re: Lifted Early Westy |
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| GTV wrote: |
| Don't be jelly Peter Man! |
when that thing shows up at jerome or BBB i will be
you might think about your tire/rim situation a little bit in that any tire that is suitable is going to be pretty pinched to squeeze onto a stock-width rim.
i only mention it because i know you're the man for the job
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:12 am Post subject: Re: Lifted Early Westy |
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Thank you for that link! I will look further into that option if my solution doesn't work out.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:42 am Post subject: Re: Lifted Early Westy |
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This bus needs a lot of work. I probably should look into why it didn't turn over coming home from getting a cup of coffee (the day after I brought it home), but I need to see the potential in this thing to get me motivated to work on the less fun tasks. So that means wheels and tires. Here are my early 15's, all date stamped 58 (6, 9, and two 11's as I recall), three of them are crows foot. Not that any of that matters.
What matters is that they need to be restored. I wire brushed off the rust scale but they will need sand blasting to start. I'm looking for a guide to do a budget wheel resto, not being cheap, I want to do it right but these wheels nor the bus is deserving of concours quality job. I want them to be Silver White (or close to it), the hubcaps to stay on, and the work to last. So I'm considering my options.
First job, knock the old hubcap clips out. What's the best way to do this?
Second, paint or powdercoat? I could get them powdercoated (which would take care of sandblasting as well) black and then spray bomb Silver White over the face similar to original. Will rattle can paint stick to powdercoat? Or just go for 100% white powdercoat that is close enough and call it done. Or get them blasted, then I prime and paint? (I don't have an air compressor yet, so if I do it, it won't be professional grade). And yes, I know about cleaning the paint out of the lug holes before mounting.
Last, hubcap clips. Who has the best clips, and a good technique for installing them?
I want to do as much of this work myself as possible. Thanks in advance!
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:57 am Post subject: Re: Lifted Early Westy |
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Contact a local machine shop & see if they will shot blast them for you, our local one would do it for $15 a wheel but that was a while ago.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:58 am Post subject: Re: Lifted Early Westy |
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Powder coat makes an excellent primer for top coating if you don't like the powder color options. However, I don't think I could rattle can some rims as smooth as my local powder coat shop finished them.
I don't know what your local shop would charge. Mine isn't cheap, but the results are always worth it.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:20 pm Post subject: Re: Lifted Early Westy |
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| TDCTDI wrote: |
| Contact a local machine shop & see if they will shot blast them for you, our local one would do it for $15 a wheel but that was a while ago. |
I was going to try to barter the VW guys around here first with a 12 pack if I can use their cabinet. But that's a good back up plan.
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Powder coat makes an excellent primer for top coating if you don't like the powder color options. However, I don't think I could rattle can some rims as smooth as my local powder coat shop finished them.
I don't know what your local shop would charge. Mine isn't cheap, but the results are always worth it.
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I tried one powdercoat shop in Seattle that wanted $85 a wheel ($340) for the job. For this vehicle, that's just way too expensive. I've heard that Les Schwab Tires will send them out for $150... That's way more reasonable. They are pulling the tires off now and I'll be getting a powder coating quote from them when I pick them up. Also, I'm not too concerned with the finish of the paint, as long as they look good from 10 feet I'll be happy. They will probably be filthy 99% of the time anyway
Do you have to scuff the powder coat down with 400-600 before you paint?
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:24 pm Post subject: Re: Lifted Early Westy |
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| GTV wrote: |
| Don't be jelly Peter Man! |
when that thing shows up at jerome or BBB i will be
you might think about your tire/rim situation a little bit in that any tire that is suitable is going to be pretty pinched to squeeze onto a stock-width rim.
i only mention it because i know you're the man for the job |
I've always wanted to do BBB, but 1300 miles each way?! No chance!
I'm not too worried about the skinny rim/tall & fat tire for this application. I know it isn't ideal but off road race cars do it all the time for extra rim protection.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: Lifted Early Westy |
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Just got my wheels back from dismount. The guy at Les Schwab quoted me $20-25 a wheel on powder coat "for those little wheels" One week turn around. Hell yes! At that price I think I'll go all out and have them done in black, hammer the clips in then rattle the Silver White myself. Almost professional 
What's the best way to remove these clip rivets? Drill or knock out from the back, or chisel off from the front?
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