Engine number

[maggiolo72]

Hi there,

I have buyed an industrial VW 1600, the number is 126 036507.
Any info about this engine ?

Ty
Max

[Pruneman99]

Yes it's an Industrial 1600.. They used a bunch of them for all kinds of applications. If you want more info, post a picture and your intentions with it. Might get some feedback then.

[maggiolo72]

Hi,

I wanto to put into my beetle instead of the almost dead 1200, just looking some info from the engine number about the year and hp....

[FreeBug]

126A industrial engines are rated differently from road engines, Without guesswork gives 42.5 hp @ 3000 rpm.

But seeing as it's just a 1600 with 7.7:1 C/R, you should be able to get 55 hp or so with twin carbs easily. It might have a 180 mm clutch, though, in which case you should get a HD one.

It weighs 100 kg

it takes 90* RON

It's fan puts out 595 l/s @3000 rpm

mean piston speed is 6.9 m/s @ 3000 rpm

bore:85.5 mm

stroke: 69mm

valve adjustment cold. 0.15 mm

if it has a magneto, 0.4-0.5 mm spark plug gap, with battery: 0.6-0.7 mm

interesting note, the 126 A owner's manual considers the engine to be overheating when oil temps surpass 130°C.

That's all I've got.

[maggiolo72]

Thank you sooo much.
I want to keep the engine as is, because as a single port is exactly the same as mine 1200 as look.
The Beetle here in Switzerland is registered as oldtimer so it as to be almost 100% original....
Do you think that I need also a HD clutch keeping it original ?
I will put on it my distributor, solex 30 pict 3.
Any suggestion about the transplant ?
I think the exhaust doesn't fit.....

[FreeBug]

Hi, are you also in Switzerland? Which Canton? From your name I'll guess Ticino...

The engines are visually similar, but a good expert will spot the swap in an instant. You could argue with some paperwork that it is rated at42.5 hp, which would be just slightly less than what you are allowed with the 20% increase in power , but you will lose your "collector" 6-year visit status.

I don't know how good the inspectors are where you live, here it is hit-and-miss, but as the older generation retire, the younger ones now &%*ç-all about older VWs. One guy was hassling me for play in the steering, when he had the steering fully turned to the side on a Ghia. Go figure.

Good luck!

[maggiolo72]

Hi,
nope I live in Basel, yes I agree the new generation is horrible, the old man who helps me to prepare the Kaefer told that they are totally unable to check the oldtimers.
In any case I don't think that they check every year the conformity as a Veteranen, once you get it they will do the normal MFK check and that's all.
Yes there are some differences but is mainly the size of the collector because for the other things is almost the same.
Where do you live ?

Gruss
Massimo

[Joel]

You'll have to swap the carb, industrial engine carbs have no accelerator pump so won't work in a car and they run a magneto instead as well but that's already gone so easy fixed.
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Quick little bug, you got a Porsche motor in that?
1974 Germanlook 1303 2.5 Suba-Beetle

[maggiolo72]

Hi there,

so I start to do some works, I have machined the flywheel because there was the manual starting parts.
Looking at the flywheel I have noticed that there is no TDC notch sign on the front, but only a mark on the back part.
According to manual the timing must be at 7,5° BTDC.
I have only this mark on it, I think this should be the 7.5° reference

According to this picture I should find the TDC mark calculating 11mm on the left side.

Or if someone can tell me the degree between the pulley key and the TDC mark I can do a double check using a pocket protractor.
Any ideas ?

[maggiolo72]

The work goes on, all the pieces have been cleaned and washed the covers with the steam cleaner and then clean for good ....

The casing inside show signs of corrosion on the magnesium so I had thought to take my 1200cc block open it and put in everything we need to dofrom the 1600cc.
At least the housing retain the numbers that I have in the booklet and I have not come up with anything strange ....
Any ideas if it is possible ?
My engine is a 1200cc from 1972 n° D1008228 with 2 oil relief valves, any idea if the boring is 90mm or 87mm?

Thanks to all

[maggiolo72]

Hi,

work is going one, I have found from a friend a nice case from a 1600.

Tomorrow I will clean all the heads and valves, piston and cylinder.
We have checked everything and all is into the tollerance.
Now I have a camshaft question.
I have the original industrial camshaft and a 1600 std camshaft.
the code that i can read on them are :

industrial 21 113.109.10.10
Std. 51 113.109.10.10

The number are similar but not 100% and also the cam lobe are different, the lift of the industrial is more high.
It's is possible or the difference is only because is newer ?

[maggiolo72]

Hi all,

someone can tell me the correct order how to tight the nuts of the crankcase ?