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Stealthy
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 Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:14 am Post subject: Crew cab front gate latches |
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Hi guys, as per the photos. Is this right? Is the profile correct or should it be a straight edge. Clearance for the latch fixings? All original car so a little bemused to see if this has been bent or something.
Thanks guys
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cru62
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:27 am Post subject: Re: Crew cab front gate latches |
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It is supposed to be that way. Otherwise, the latch could not be installed.
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Stealthy
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:18 pm Post subject: Re: Crew cab front gate latches |
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Good thanks. I've seen others that are straight but maybe it was a repro section?
Either way it's solved a question. Cheers guys.
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hitest
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: Crew cab front gate latches |
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| cru62 wrote: |
| It is supposed to be that way. Otherwise, the latch could not be installed. |
What? Those gate latches easily drop down into their respective locations- and are screwed on from the inside. Those outtie dents are not by any means necessary- and are not stock. Somebody used it as a cargo hook hold- they don't even align with the latch pivot. Further, they relied on the latch to serve as a "stop" so their hook would not slide.
Unless somebody has seen a PR change that resulted in my front bulkhead being straight and earlier ones "clearanced," I'm calling it a user error.
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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nlorntson
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: Crew cab front gate latches |
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| Our 1963 DC has those bends in the same place. |
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mandraks
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: Crew cab front gate latches |
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| Our 1963 DC has those bends in the same place. |
i am sure my 61 did as well
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mdubg
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:13 pm Post subject: Re: Crew cab front gate latches |
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I've owned a couple Crew Cabs and they both had the bow in that rail. It's super coincidence, or stock. I say the later.
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nlorntson
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cru62
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:04 pm Post subject: Re: Crew cab front gate latches |
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| cru62 wrote: |
| It is supposed to be that way. Otherwise, the latch could not be installed. |
What? Those gate latches easily drop down into their respective locations- and are screwed on from the inside. Those outtie dents are not by any means necessary- and are not stock. Somebody used it as a cargo hook hold- they don't even align with the latch pivot. Further, they relied on the latch to serve as a "stop" so their hook would not slide.
Unless somebody has seen a PR change that resulted in my front bulkhead being straight and earlier ones "clearanced," I'm calling it a user error. |
The four Double Cabs and one Single Cab I have owned all had that bump.
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Stealthy
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:06 pm Post subject: Re: Crew cab front gate latches |
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majority rules then? 
Thanks all.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:23 pm Post subject: Re: Crew cab front gate latches |
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| mandraks wrote: |
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| Our 1963 DC has those bends in the same place. |
i am sure my 61 did as well |
My '61 has them.
If I look at the ridges they are pretty close to the latches, it makes me wonder if they did that because:
* The latch would be really close to the metal otherwise, any sort of bump from cargo might make the latch rub against the ridge
* Bending it adds additional rigidity so if there was a cargo bump, it wouldn't bend inward as easily.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:47 am Post subject: Re: Crew cab front gate latches |
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Does anyone have the dimensions of the bump - width, depth and height? My 65 had these on the original back (long gone) and I need to reproduce on my replacement panel.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:23 am Post subject: Re: Crew cab front gate latches |
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my 64 DC has them too. They are supposed to be there.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: Crew cab front gate latches |
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My '59 Double-Cab has 'em too. I think we've definitively established they are supposed to be there. Time to lock this?
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hitest
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:38 pm Post subject: Re: Crew cab front gate latches |
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My apologies on the earlier rigs- but were they ever changed to be flat? Somewhere long ago mine must have been flattened too because it is an early '65 bus- but I sure do not know why. All the bed metal on my DC is original- including the corners (but I did not catch all dent removals, etc.).
Again, sorry for my premature adamancy! 
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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chrisflstf
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:41 pm Post subject: Re: Crew cab front gate latches |
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| My guess is that someone who worked on your VW Bus flattened them out. It can be fixed |
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hitest
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:32 pm Post subject: Re: Crew cab front gate latches |
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It was repainted root beer many years ago- but recently underwent a full repaint in a more correct color. I didn't notice it before- concentrating on known dings and a dogleg repair, nose dent, etc.. This is truly upsetting news. Time to consult a painter friend about what's involved in applying the curve to those things. If Bill sees this DC and I haven't re-curved the front bulkhead, I'll have to disguise it with a tilt. Sorry again for my taste of crow.
EDIT- sorry for the obsession- but since my latches easily clear with a straight rim- are those 'divots' possibly for clearance of the leading edge of a tilt? Specifically, does the gather (or whatever hem a tilt has on the front overlap) require extra clearance around those latches?
Me thinks it is for such a need. More importantly, am I slightly redeemed? 
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