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EverettB 
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Zwitter
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Thank You Everet for the refrence photo. There's just something quite beautiful to a barndoor deluxe dash.
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bwaz
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sunroof
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Never mind, all these old Volkswagens are beautiful. VW had one of the best design departments on the planet. Absolutely every line and contour is in exactly the right place. People wouldn't pay what they do for barndoor deluxes if they were not spectacularly beautiful. Oh and zwitters too of course.
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ZENVWDRIVER
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| i sold my 11/4/52 Zwitter last year and it also had a solid VW emblem...the story i got was that emblem ended with the start of the Zwitter change and some left-over solid emblems made it onto some early 1952 Zwitters. |
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ZwitterND
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Sounds like there is 52 zwitters and 53 zwitters 
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| ZwitterND wrote: |
| Sounds like there is 52 zwitters and 53 zwitters |
Bingo!
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bwaz
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as i was going through progressive refinements, I was surprised to see how many changes were made during the short zwitter span. Some like the strap air cleaner starting jan2/53 are easy to see, a lot not visible like larger intake valves, a different intake manifold support Nov 10/52 (beaded sheet metal strip instead of just pipe) Jan20/53 a different oil pump shaft, Feb13/53 carb and fuel pump nipple now 40 degrees instead of 60. Jan31/53 the telescopic shock absorber now a "Hemscheidt" make for 5000 vehicles. Maybe short of stock? Ones like Dec30/52 the tires get improved clearance through 5mm shorter supports at the body.
Love this stuff!
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bally
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I've been under the impression that the following is true:
Solid like the one in the picture without a horizontal line between the V and W is early 1950 and back.
Solid with a line between the V and W is mid 1950 - early 52 (split window era)
Then it goes into the 1953-1960 version. |
I'm reviving this thread as I cannot find a definitive answer to Nancy's query above:
When did the badge change from this:
To this:
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Zvonimir1985
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:08 am Post subject: Re: Hood emblem 1953 Zwitter |
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OK, but what about the hood? Are there any changes through years?
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usariemen
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| bally wrote: |
When did the badge change from this:
To this:
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Somewhen in spring to summer 1950.
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RockStock
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| Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2022 9:21 am Post subject: Body colour badges |
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Examples of the late solid badge with the recess areas painted in body colour:
^L11 Pastel Green?
^L36 Azure Blue?
Looks like the grooves - the circle, and within the V and the W - may have been highlighted in black?
I’m wondering if the 51-55 Barndoor Deluxe centre pod solid badge, whose recess areas seem to have been unpainted, may have had grooves highlighted in black.
Bus version discussion here, btw:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=673887
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| I have seen old solid emblems with remnants of original looking paint on the flat surfaces, but would be surprised if the dealer got into that level of detailing on a new car. Could they have been factory painted when new? |
The blue on the L36 badge (mine) above was really well adhered…making me think it was applied at the factory.
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Zwitterkafer
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| Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:28 am Post subject: Re: Hood emblem 1953 Zwitter |
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RockStock, that's a nice emblem, it indeed looks like Azureblau! Very interesting about the possibility of black highlights in the smaller emblem grooves. If so, what a work of art!
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RockStock
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| Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 7:54 am Post subject: Re: Hood emblem 1953 Zwitter |
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Thanks Harvey.
WOA, yes.
UZI’s old L11 Pastel Green ‘50 split:
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RockStock
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| Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 8:13 am Post subject: Re: Hood emblem 1953 Zwitter |
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Just for reference, an NOS badge. Tabs bolt upright. Dirty, as found (not mine). Unpainted.
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RockStock
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| Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:35 am Post subject: Re: Hood emblem 1953 Zwitter |
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Two badges sold by Kai in recent years
^Black
^Unsure on colour. Early version. Grooves unpainted.
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RockStock
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| Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:37 am Post subject: Re: Hood emblem 1953 Zwitter |
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Another NOS example. Tabs bolt upright.
Grooves unpainted.
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RockStock
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| Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:26 am Post subject: Re: Hood emblem 1953 Zwitter |
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Trawled most of the Splits looking at their painted badges in the heat at HO22 FOR YOU GUYS!!!
^this one is a later hollow badge
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RockStock
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| Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:30 am Post subject: Re: Hood emblem 1953 Zwitter |
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(See previous page)
^for sale in the swapmeet. Both these badges had their rear tab ring missing. Is that black in the grove on the green badge?
^looks like a repaint
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There's also this other post...
