| Author |
Message |
ghiafreek
Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2002
Posts: 937
Location: San Antonio, Tx
|
 Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:03 am Post subject: No Z-bar on early 1967? |
 |
|
I just picked up a yukon yellow vert and noticed it does not have the infamous Z-bar. Would this be possible because its early or just that tranny was swapped out? The axles do not have extension for Z-bar fitting.
VIN 157420593 looks to December '66.
thanks |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
VOLKSWAGNUT
Fastest VW Belt Changer
Joined: October 14, 2007
Posts: 11056
Location: Flippin' a Belt........ .... Off-n-On ... NC USA
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:12 am Post subject: Re: No Z-bar on early 1967? |
|
|
Quite simply.. NO..
The axle Z bar rod link bumper brackets bolt on the axles.....
Does the body have the Z bar pivot?
December is not early
_________________
aka Ken {o\!/o}
Its your vehicle- stop askin' for approval-do what YOU like for cryin' out loud
Better to roll em' how you want and wear em' out-than lettin' em' rot out
Its about the going not the showing
Rebuilt to drive not decorate
WANTED: Local Eatin' Joints, Triple D for TheSamba contributions here http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=570510
Search "VOLKSWAGNUT" on YouTube since you cant watch a "certain" BELT change video round here
Usually and often edited |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ghiafreek
Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2002
Posts: 937
Location: San Antonio, Tx
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:17 am Post subject: Re: No Z-bar on early 1967? |
|
|
| Hmm. Z-bar pivot..let me check gallery and see what that looks like. First '67. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
VOLKSWAGNUT
Fastest VW Belt Changer
Joined: October 14, 2007
Posts: 11056
Location: Flippin' a Belt........ .... Off-n-On ... NC USA
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:19 am Post subject: Re: No Z-bar on early 1967? |
|
|
If its truly a 67.. it will have to pivot body mounts.. The "over load spring" was a new for 1967 feature.. so all 67's (and later swing axles) got it.
Prepare a nice drink.. .and have a nice educational 1967 Beetle specific read.  http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=187814
Simple 67 BEETLE virgin mistake.. and it wont be your last.. 
'
.
_________________
aka Ken {o\!/o}
Its your vehicle- stop askin' for approval-do what YOU like for cryin' out loud
Better to roll em' how you want and wear em' out-than lettin' em' rot out
Its about the going not the showing
Rebuilt to drive not decorate
WANTED: Local Eatin' Joints, Triple D for TheSamba contributions here http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=570510
Search "VOLKSWAGNUT" on YouTube since you cant watch a "certain" BELT change video round here
Usually and often edited |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ghiafreek
Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2002
Posts: 937
Location: San Antonio, Tx
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:57 am Post subject: Re: No Z-bar on early 1967? |
|
|
| Thanks. I did see opening there with bolts screwed in but no end cap. Guess Im missing it all. On the hunt now for Z bar system. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
6Kabrio7
Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2006
Posts: 2387
Location: California
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 9:48 am Post subject: Re: No Z-bar on early 1967? |
|
|
Wow major score man the previous owner obviously restored it.
[/url]
_________________
67 Convertible July 67 Yukon Yellow
67 Sedan May 67 Zenith blue |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
VOLKSWAGNUT
Fastest VW Belt Changer
Joined: October 14, 2007
Posts: 11056
Location: Flippin' a Belt........ .... Off-n-On ... NC USA
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 10:01 am Post subject: Re: No Z-bar on early 1967? |
|
|
| 6Kabrio7 wrote: |
| Wow major score man the previous owner obviously restored it. |
No doubt its a nice looking car.. but if parts were left off (or changed to an incorrect year) ... it is far from restored.
It is an awesome color combo.
Not cracking on what appears to be a nice car.. I am just preparing the new owner for the inevitable...so he/she can get used to the 67 shrine purist crowd pointing the minor incorrect or correct details out..
I don't mean to seem like an ass... Im always direct and to the point..
and
Im in no way a 67 purist.. but...... I spy with my lil eye something in this picture.. we all love to hate see noticed on a nice car even AFTER a reconditioning.... let alone a proper restoration.
That last term is used way too loosely IMO.
67's ... = one of the best driving Beetles.. but the worst for bastard year parts.
| ghiafreek wrote: |
| Thanks. I did see opening there with bolts screwed in but no end cap. Guess Im missing it all. On the hunt now for Z bar system. |
Well.. now... how about ...does it have the 67 long axle tubes..
.
_________________
aka Ken {o\!/o}
Its your vehicle- stop askin' for approval-do what YOU like for cryin' out loud
Better to roll em' how you want and wear em' out-than lettin' em' rot out
Its about the going not the showing
Rebuilt to drive not decorate
WANTED: Local Eatin' Joints, Triple D for TheSamba contributions here http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=570510
Search "VOLKSWAGNUT" on YouTube since you cant watch a "certain" BELT change video round here
Usually and often edited |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
6Kabrio7
Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2006
Posts: 2387
Location: California
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:00 am Post subject: Re: No Z-bar on early 1967? |
|
|
Ghiafreek does the pan and body number match?
_________________
67 Convertible July 67 Yukon Yellow
67 Sedan May 67 Zenith blue |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
6Kabrio7
Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2006
Posts: 2387
Location: California
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:06 am Post subject: Re: No Z-bar on early 1967? |
|
|
| 67's ... = one of the best driving Beetles.. but the worst for bastard year parts wrote: |
| |
My opinion that's why a proper 67 is more collectible than some other years but take that with a grain of salt I'm not a snob nor do I dislike other year beetles.
_________________
67 Convertible July 67 Yukon Yellow
67 Sedan May 67 Zenith blue |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
jwp67
Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2012
Posts: 657
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:01 pm Post subject: Re: No Z-bar on early 1967? |
|
|
| I'm in San Antonio and have a complete z bar system for you. PM sent |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ghiafreek
Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2002
Posts: 937
Location: San Antonio, Tx
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:44 pm Post subject: Re: No Z-bar on early 1967? |
|
|
| 6Kabrio7 wrote: |
| Ghiafreek does the pan and body number match? |
Yes
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ghiafreek
Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2002
Posts: 937
Location: San Antonio, Tx
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:46 pm Post subject: Re: No Z-bar on early 1967? |
|
|
| VOLKSWAGNUT wrote: |
| 6Kabrio7 wrote: |
| Wow major score man the previous owner obviously restored it. |
No doubt its a nice looking car.. but if parts were left off (or changed to an incorrect year) ... it is far from restored.
It is an awesome color combo.
Not cracking on what appears to be a nice car.. I am just preparing the new owner for the inevitable...so he/she can get used to the 67 shrine purist crowd pointing the minor incorrect or correct details out..
I don't mean to seem like an ass... Im always direct and to the point..
and
Im in no way a 67 purist.. but...... I spy with my lil eye something in this picture.. we all love to hate see noticed on a nice car even AFTER a reconditioning.... let alone a proper restoration.
That last term is used way too loosely IMO.
|
Got you. I have gone over the '67 thread and will be diving into it often. I plan to make a list of things to check so I can verify. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
6Kabrio7
Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2006
Posts: 2387
Location: California
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: No Z-bar on early 1967? |
|
|
The driver's front fender is aftermarket but it's not a big deal. That's something you can deal with way down the line. Also convertibles had all black slotted wheels with beauty rings. The two tone wheels were on sedans. Again these are extremely minor things.
_________________
67 Convertible July 67 Yukon Yellow
67 Sedan May 67 Zenith blue |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ghiafreek
Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2002
Posts: 937
Location: San Antonio, Tx
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:18 pm Post subject: Re: No Z-bar on early 1967? |
|
|
| 6Kabrio7 wrote: |
| The driver's front fender is aftermarket but it's not a big deal. That's something you can deal with way down the line. Also convertibles had all black slotted wheels with beauty rings. The two tone wheels were on sedans. Again these are extremely minor things. |
Like this. They are slotted.
Or do you mean the entire wheel was painted black? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
VOLKSWAGNUT
Fastest VW Belt Changer
Joined: October 14, 2007
Posts: 11056
Location: Flippin' a Belt........ .... Off-n-On ... NC USA
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:26 pm Post subject: Re: No Z-bar on early 1967? |
|
|
| 6Kabrio7 wrote: |
| Again these are extremely minor things. |
True ^... but the fender grilles being off would drive me more NUTS..
Now the Wheels.. I could deal with.... only if it had a white top..
Just a joke.. cause if it were mine.. it would be getting BRM's anyway....
But black and yellow go together like peas and carrots..
The wheels are the same sedan vs convertible.. it's the solid paint "treatment" and rings on the convertible that's different.
| aircooled wrote: |
67 convertible rims with rings are painted solid.
67 Bug rims are painted two tone.
|
_________________
aka Ken {o\!/o}
Its your vehicle- stop askin' for approval-do what YOU like for cryin' out loud
Better to roll em' how you want and wear em' out-than lettin' em' rot out
Its about the going not the showing
Rebuilt to drive not decorate
WANTED: Local Eatin' Joints, Triple D for TheSamba contributions here http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=570510
Search "VOLKSWAGNUT" on YouTube since you cant watch a "certain" BELT change video round here
Usually and often edited
Last edited by VOLKSWAGNUT on Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:34 pm; edited 2 times in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ghiafreek
Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2002
Posts: 937
Location: San Antonio, Tx
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: No Z-bar on early 1967? |
|
|
| VOLKSWAGNUT wrote: |
| 6Kabrio7 wrote: |
| Again these are extremely minor things. |
True ^... but the fender thing would drive me more NUTS..
Now the Wheels.. I could deal with..
The wheels are the same sedan vs convertible.. it's the solid paint "treatment" and rings on the convertible that's different.
| aircooled wrote: |
67 convertible rims with rings are painted solid.
|
|
I like that! Gonna have to do finish painting solid black. I looked up fender differences and still can't figure out what 6Kabrio7 saw in fender that is not '67. Crap! nevermind. Just saw it. The horn grill opening is farther out from center.
Last edited by ghiafreek on Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:35 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
VOLKSWAGNUT
Fastest VW Belt Changer
Joined: October 14, 2007
Posts: 11056
Location: Flippin' a Belt........ .... Off-n-On ... NC USA
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:35 pm Post subject: Re: No Z-bar on early 1967? |
|
|
| ghiafreek wrote: |
| . I looked up fender differences and still can't figure out what 6Kabrio7 saw in fender that is not '67. |
Hey I spotted it first...
Look at the horn grille placement...
Its like night and day.. 
.
_________________
aka Ken {o\!/o}
Its your vehicle- stop askin' for approval-do what YOU like for cryin' out loud
Better to roll em' how you want and wear em' out-than lettin' em' rot out
Its about the going not the showing
Rebuilt to drive not decorate
WANTED: Local Eatin' Joints, Triple D for TheSamba contributions here http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=570510
Search "VOLKSWAGNUT" on YouTube since you cant watch a "certain" BELT change video round here
Usually and often edited
Last edited by VOLKSWAGNUT on Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:37 pm; edited 2 times in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ghiafreek
Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2002
Posts: 937
Location: San Antonio, Tx
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: No Z-bar on early 1967? |
|
|
| Yeah...that's gonna bother me. $$$ Oh well. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
VOLKSWAGNUT
Fastest VW Belt Changer
Joined: October 14, 2007
Posts: 11056
Location: Flippin' a Belt........ .... Off-n-On ... NC USA
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:41 pm Post subject: Re: No Z-bar on early 1967? |
|
|
| ghiafreek wrote: |
| . Crap! nevermind. Just saw it. The horn grill opening is farther out from center. |
I see you noticed too.. (just edited.. initially wrong)..
| ghiafreek wrote: |
| Yeah...that's gonna bother me. $$$ Oh well. |
Id have to deal with it too...
Happy reading.. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=496338
Lots have been in that same sunken boat as you..
.
_________________
aka Ken {o\!/o}
Its your vehicle- stop askin' for approval-do what YOU like for cryin' out loud
Better to roll em' how you want and wear em' out-than lettin' em' rot out
Its about the going not the showing
Rebuilt to drive not decorate
WANTED: Local Eatin' Joints, Triple D for TheSamba contributions here http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=570510
Search "VOLKSWAGNUT" on YouTube since you cant watch a "certain" BELT change video round here
Usually and often edited |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
pluriel54
Samba Member
Joined: April 09, 2010
Posts: 8
Location: the Netherlands
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:20 am Post subject: Re: No Z-bar on early 1967? |
|
|
Hi,
I am the one who bought this car from Ghiafreek this spring and imported it to The Neterlands.
It is my 8th vert from the US. I bought several nice cars from '55 to '69.
I already found out that '67 is the worst parts year. Can anyone of you help me with what is wrong on my car.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
