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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:53 am    Post subject: Re: Had some time for my '58 low light today Reply with quote

FYI, I've used those panhalves and you're going to need to address the pedal stop area on the new pan halves to match the original ones. Its not flat, no nut insert on underside. Almost easier to cut section off old pan and weld into new than mess with flattening/drilling welding nut underneath to correct position. Hate to see you catch this after getting the pan into finished state ie painted/powder coated.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 1:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Had some time for my '58 low light today Reply with quote

Hi d5626

Thanks for the advice. I was aware that I was going to have to make those mods to this pan including the jack points. I cut the old jack points off the old pan and will weld them to this one as well locating the pedal stop area. And I need to repair and weld the seat tracks in place. More work to do yet ...

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 5:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Had some time for my '58 low light today Reply with quote

Hi Folks

Today I finished the repair of the slightly (LOL) damaged and rusty seat rails, make a new cross member and welded the whole thing in place. Here is my setup to make sure things stay aligned:

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And then the driver's side in place.The copper color is weld through primer so that there will be no raw metal.

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And finally both seats in place.

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And I can even sit in them and make zoom zoom noises.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:44 am    Post subject: Re: Had some time for my '58 low light today Reply with quote

Nice.
Cool recessed area for your lift!!

Try to keep the zoom zoom to a minimum til you have your brakes Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:17 am    Post subject: Re: Had some time for my '58 low light today Reply with quote

Porschedave wrote:
Hi Folks

Today I fabricated a piece to replace the rusty part and fit the pan half.

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Nice work, as usual. Interestingly, I just made this piece as well, but for the other side.

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I didn't bother with the inboard hole though. It was originally covered with a rubber plug. I think it was a leftover from the beetle based pan structure.

Here's a link to some discussion on it:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=642871
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Had some time for my '58 low light today Reply with quote

Hi Foks

Today I brought the shell home so I am ready to tackle the restoration of the body now that the pan is done.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Had some time for my '58 low light today Reply with quote

Hi
I got to work on the car today, beginning at the right front corner. It is kind of a mess, with rot around the headlight bucket and inside the fender where the cool air flows.

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I removed a section of the fender to make access easier.

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The fresh air tube was shot,
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I cut the tube away and some of the poor metal around the tube,
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and then a cardboard template to make the new metal piece with the tube inserted

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and I removed a rusty section and made a replacement piece just behind the headlight.

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Tomorrow I'll start welding the replacement pieces in. All in all, not a bad day.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Had some time for my '58 low light today Reply with quote

Looking good Dave. Look forward to your progress!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:13 am    Post subject: Re: Had some time for my '58 low light today Reply with quote

Hi, nice work and thanks for sharing.
Can I request a few more photos as you tackle this please?
I'm doing similar work on my '58 (CJ from South Africa) on the left hand side fender.
Keep up the good work.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:50 am    Post subject: Re: Had some time for my '58 low light today Reply with quote

Porschedave wrote:
I removed a section of the fender to make access easier.

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Wow, you are not f*cking around!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Had some time for my '58 low light today Reply with quote

Hi

We're having something like 50mm of rain today - talk about the wet coast!! But the garage is relatively warm so I spent the day staying dry working on the right front air intake. What a pain. It was difficult to make the piece that flows are from the nostril. But I've managed to make a piece and managed to get it to fit.

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And I've finished the pieces for the front of the box as well.

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By this time tomorrow it will all be welded into place and I can have a closer look at replacing the front fender and headlight bucket.

Cheers.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:28 am    Post subject: Re: Had some time for my '58 low light today Reply with quote

I went through much the same processes replacing my fresh air boxes and tubes on my '68 Ghia. My only regret is that I didn't paint the insides of those parts before spot welding them to the frame.

Paint and cavity wax while the access is good, is the lesson I learned.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Had some time for my '58 low light today Reply with quote

Hi kiwighia68

Yes, I agree. I've painted the insides of all of the metal and the original material as well.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 11:30 am    Post subject: Re: Had some time for my '58 low light today Reply with quote

Good morning

Yesterday I completed the repair to the right-front air duct and am now ready to fit the replacement fender piece and the newly purchased lower fender part that I got from Danny Gabard. I used an etch primer over the new parts to reduce rust. And I noted that the replacement headlight buckets need a bit of modification to match the original - like removing the tabs for the newer light fixture and plugging one hole.

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The fit of the replacement parts is not too bad so I am hopeful that in another day or two of work the fender will look quite finished.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Had some time for my '58 low light today Reply with quote

Hi
Before I weld the new section I looked carefully and sure enough there was factory lead in the panel. I used a torch to gently heat and melt this stuff out of the way so that I can go ahead and weld the panel to the fender section. I think that working with this lead was pretty unhealthy and I was careful not to breathe any fumes.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:31 am    Post subject: Re: Had some time for my '58 low light today Reply with quote

If it's the factory applied material it was pewter, not lead. I'm guessing it would be slightly less toxic.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Had some time for my '58 low light today Reply with quote

Hey

Today's progress was to tack the new pieces into place and they fit very nicely.

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Tomorrow I'll finish weld these completely, add a headlight bucket and then move onto the next section - the engine compartment!!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:14 am    Post subject: Re: Had some time for my '58 low light today Reply with quote

The car is looking more and more like a Ghia again. The engine compartment is a section where I will have a lot of work too so I am curious for the coming progress and pictures o course!

Really ambitious project! Cool Keep us up to date.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Had some time for my '58 low light today Reply with quote

Howdy Folks
Today I started the work on the engine compartment. This will be complex because not only do I need to work on the engine tin but also the fender supporting brackets, the rear valence and of course the rear fender area. And all of these are interconnected. Here's shot of the compartment and you can see that it is somewhat sad. It seems this car was bumped from behind at some point.

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Trevor gave me a chunk from a wreck of a lowlight,

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So, I removed the essential piece that I need:

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and then media blasted it and matched it up with a battery tray piece I bought from Danny at Gab-Fab. It's a perfect fit.

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And I made a few of the supporting pieces that I'll need.

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Not bad progress today.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 12:50 am    Post subject: Re: Had some time for my '58 low light today Reply with quote

Dave,

this is a really complicated area because some many pieces come together. I did almost the same on my Ghia yesterday (removed the engine bay) but with the damage on the driver side.

Your preparations look good especially the rescued and blasted middle section, well done! I also have imported a battery tray from danny and I am really satisfied with it as well. I think there is no better reproduction on the market at the moment. So looks good so far...keep on going!

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