attaching clips to cards

[unclewede]

We have ne cards to put on doors and rear. Can't figure out a REASONABLE way to get the clips onto the cards. I would love, at this point, to get the cards on the doors to see just how much the sound-deadening has done in the front seat, now that we have most carpet in place.

Plus, it will look nicer. . .

[Cusser]

Push the U-part of the clip into the hole, parallel to the door panel, then pull the clip the other way onto the panel surface itself.
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[TX-73]

Be aware that the installed clips may need a bit of final positioning to align with the holes in the doors/body before pushing the panels into place.
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[Tim Donahoe]

I used Cusser's method, but also had to nudge a few clips in with needle-nose pliers. In a few cases, I actually used a q-tip with a small amount of WD-40 on the clip to get it in. The board is not a solid mass and can be chipped or broken off if you're not careful.

Tim
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[gt1953]

While the door panels were off did you do any and all other maintenance items. Hope for you that you replaced the plastic sheet behind the door panel.
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[unclewede]

[TX-73]

This is what Cusser was referring to, it's a heavier mil thickness plastic sheet to keep moisture away from the door card. I had some 10 mil plastic that I used to replace the old torn plastic. A thin bead of rtv holds it in place.

On the clips, they are pretty tight going on, I used a bit of silicone grease to help. You can open the u-slot just a bit but be careful and don't over-do it.

As mentioned, pre-align the clips to the holes and tap into place.

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[Tim Donahoe]

Remember what Cusser said. Put the u-bend entire in the hole first. Then push the open part around the edge of the hole. Use pliers to grip the v-shaped end, if necessary on some of them. Silicon grease might be better than my WD40 trick.

It's a good idea to install the corresponding rubber sleeves in the door holes also. And that's where I used the q-tip and silicone to lube the rubber opening, making the clip slide in nice and easy. I also applied several coats of oil-based Rustolem on the backside of the card. The color was very close to the vinyl color, in case I blew it a smidge when rolling and brushing the paint on. Even with a moisture barrier, some moisture starts forming mold after awhile. The brushed-on oil-based paint seals the interior or the card very well.

Tim
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[unclewede]

We put new rubber sleeves in all the holes already, but with this help I see we have a ways to go before installing the cards if we want them to last.

Vapor seal AND oil paint on the backside? I know when I paint my bathrooms, I now add some mold-prevention stuff to the paint, to help preserve the greenboard walls.

TX-73, did you use the cards to draw on the plastic, or tape to the door?

[Cusser]

Tape the plastic to the door. VW used some kind of flexible glue for this.
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[Tim Donahoe]

You don't have to paint the backside of the cards. I just did it because Every time I have removed those panels, there always seems to be some moisture damage, regardless if a vapor barrier was used.

Some people use double-sided tape to hold the plastic vapor barrier on. Others use flexible caulk, others use rtv sealant.

Tim
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[awreed]

[Tim Donahoe]

Awreed, good idea. Next time I pull the cards, I'll give that a shot. The double-sided tape doesn't really seal as well as I like.

Tim
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[unclewede]

We have a 77/sunroof. Vapor barrier on the back cards as well? I haven't figured out yet just where the back drain tubes end up.

Going to local marine store to see if I can't find a quart or pint of some better paint for all 4, just because.

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[Tim Donahoe]

In my '74 SB, the drain hoses simply drain into the interior of the quarter panel. If you look between the bottom of the quarter panel and the running board, you should have a large, obvious drain in that area. Back inside the car, shine a light while using a mirror to see this drain hole. Make sure it's clear.

Tim
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[unclewede]

So those rear cards need the paint/barrier treatment also.


I learned something from this yesterday. I knew what RTV was, just didn't know what it stood for: Room Temperature Vulcanization.

[bnam]

https://www.amazon.com/Krylon-10-25-Ounce-Repositi...DYRJSA2X8A

I use this for the barrier film. Allows barrier to be removed and refitted without having to reapply glue.

[unclewede]

Put 2 coats of Rustoleum oil-based enamel on the backs Saturday. First one didn't take much material, but the last 3 all left "spots" where I could see the board absorbed a lot of the paint. Switched directions for the application on the second coat, about 5 hours after the first. Left them all day in the sun Sunday to dry.

I looked around at the home improvement stores and the thickest material I could find was 6mil. I don't need 250 square feet of it though!!!

[Tim Donahoe]

I used the thickest plastic 12X12 paint drop cloths I could find. Get the thicker, more expensive one.

Tim
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