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John Moxon Samba Moderator
Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 13958 Location: Southampton U.K.
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:21 am Post subject: Re: Saving Emiko: 68 RHD Restoration in New Zealand |
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kiwighia68 wrote: |
I went with a friend to look at the '72 Ghia he had imported from California. The seller had assured him that the body was in good condition, the car was running, and that there were no serious rust issues.
This is what lurked underneath:
A used front clip had been clipped onto the car. The outer skin had been welded up and painted with primer to mask the weld. Inside the front luggage compartment the gap between the two sections (about and inch or so) had been concealed under masking tape and the area painted with primer.
The other side looks no better.
There are crooks everywhere, it seems.
Anyway: Rant over. How does my friend recover from this? New front clip? Remove existing and reweld? Any other ieads? |
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c21darrel Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2009 Posts: 8211 Location: San Dimas
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kiwighia68 Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2013 Posts: 2877 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:09 am Post subject: Re: Saving Emiko: 68 RHD Restoration in New Zealand |
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c21darrel wrote: |
Thats terrible. I think the only acceptable repair is to take it apart and start from scratch...If I recall, you have high repair standards in order to register and drive on your roads. How could this pass? |
That's what I think. Unstitch, repair and re-weld. One of the reasons I went 90km from home to do my car's metalwork was that the workshop had 3 or 4 registered and certified welders (who allowed me to do the donkey work in order to save costs).
Phillip now has experience in putting together a Ghia with severe front end damage - especially the right front A pillar assembly repairs, for which I created a separate thread. That's where we're headed, I think. Small town New Zealand - incidentally, very far from the earthquake zone. (You had your own earthquake on Tuesday, I think, albeit of a different kind. Wink-wink, nudge-nudge.)
A certifier would have to check the repair-work as it progresses. My friend has about USD10 000 in the car, so it's one of those cases where there may be more to be lost going forwards rather than backwards.
I appreciate your advice, as usual. _________________ Festina lente - hasten slowly
1968 Ghia named Emiko
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c21darrel Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2009 Posts: 8211 Location: San Dimas
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bobnorman Samba Newfoundlander
Joined: August 09, 2010 Posts: 1389 Location: Newfoundland
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:36 am Post subject: Re: Saving Emiko: 68 RHD Restoration in New Zealand |
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Wow. That is criminal. Was it a seller on here? If so he should be banned. At the very least he should be named and shamed. No excuse for that. As to what to do? I agree, take it all apart and start over, given this who knows what the rest looks like. If it's a good clip (other than being slightly too short) it could be straightforward to fix. Best of luck to him. _________________ Air does not freeze. Air does not boil.
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kiwighia68 Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2013 Posts: 2877 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:06 pm Post subject: Re: Saving Emiko: 68 RHD Restoration in New Zealand |
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I bought the engine and gearbox of the California Ghia my friend is going to rebuild with a Subaru motor and gearbox.
I spent the whole day yesterday under the car, struggling to get the engine out. So much gunk. Some bolts between the engine and gearbox missing. (I spent an hour looking for them!) It will be an interesting project, I think.
It looks like a 1600 twin port motor, but I'm not sure. No engine number, but the case doesn't look like it's been split. _________________ Festina lente - hasten slowly
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mcdonaldneal Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2013 Posts: 2649 Location: Gullane, Scotland
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paul_round Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2014 Posts: 502 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:37 am Post subject: Re: Saving Emiko: 68 RHD Restoration in New Zealand |
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I'm loving the coil mounting! |
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kiwighia68 Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2013 Posts: 2877 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:05 am Post subject: Re: Saving Emiko: 68 RHD Restoration in New Zealand |
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paul_round wrote: |
I'm loving the coil mounting! |
Lots of strange things on this car, apart from that coil mounting. Small woodrim steering wheel. Gene Berg? gearstick. Holes though the floorpans for Recaro seats. Aftermarket mirrors. Thick plastic-like substance sprayed on the underside of the gearbox. Electronic 009 dizzy. And two small 34 Pict Webers with linkage, which my mate Dean says will be suitable for my 1641 motor.
How come I'm envious of the guy who's just starting on this project? _________________ Festina lente - hasten slowly
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c21darrel Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2009 Posts: 8211 Location: San Dimas
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kiwighia68 Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2013 Posts: 2877 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:27 am Post subject: Re: Saving Emiko: 68 RHD Restoration in New Zealand |
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c21darrel wrote: |
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How come I'm envious of the guy who's just starting on this project? |
Because you love the activity, the search, the chase, the learning, the problem solving, hitting up against block wall and busting through to success. :D |
Of course. When an interest becomes an inquiry, which leads to an acquisition, which, in the process of restoration, like alternating current, switches from desperation to passion.
Will those Webers work on my 1641 Ghia, do you think, Darrel? _________________ Festina lente - hasten slowly
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c21darrel Samba Member
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kiwighia68 Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2013 Posts: 2877 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:08 pm Post subject: Re: Saving Emiko: 68 RHD Restoration in New Zealand |
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I hope these Webers and linkage are going to work on my car. I also have the electronic 009 distributor to go with them. I don't really need more power - but I would like the engine to run a bit smoother.
The carbs say "Made in Spain." Small nation, big impact. _________________ Festina lente - hasten slowly
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kiwighia68 Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2013 Posts: 2877 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: Saving Emiko: 68 RHD Restoration in New Zealand |
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These visor clips are useless and I'm going to have to make my own. Or find metal originals.
_________________ Festina lente - hasten slowly
1968 Ghia named Emiko
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kiwighia68 Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2013 Posts: 2877 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:33 am Post subject: Re: Saving Emiko: 68 RHD Restoration in New Zealand |
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Well, I've been unusually quiet, but I had a novel (80 000 words) to write. But I've had a little time for my Ghia the last week or so.
First, the Weber carbs have been installed - and the car has about 20% more power, runs and accelerates more sweetly, and is just so much more responsive on the throttle. (Three Beetles and a Beach Buggy in my past, but never a twin carb set-up.)
Secondly I spent two days doing additional sound-deadening under the back seat area and on the heater tubes under the back seat. And the car is so much quieter: I might even install the original radio. Maybe some other time.
We went for a drive to enjoy the extra power and the less noisy ride and stopped at Mellons Bay. A woman in a Holden (Chevrolet) stopped next to us and lamented the fact that her Dutch grandfather who had a '61 Ghia wouldn't sell it to any member of the family - so they watched it go and have been sorry ever since. (She now owns a Rat Rod VW - an abomination, if you ask me, but I suppose there's no accounting for tastes.)
Summer's here, and here's the proof.
The trees in the background are Pohukatawa and they bloom at Christmas. I wish all Sambanista a peaceful Christmas and a Happy New Year. _________________ Festina lente - hasten slowly
1968 Ghia named Emiko
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mcdonaldneal Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2013 Posts: 2649 Location: Gullane, Scotland
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:15 am Post subject: Re: Saving Emiko: 68 RHD Restoration in New Zealand |
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Good to see, the car's looking great!
Sounds like the twin carbs were a very worthwhile upgrade, nice to hear that you're enjoying the change!
Summer's for enjoying the Ghia. Winter here is for small jobs and planning ahead...
I'm making decisions on my slow accumulation of parts, mostly NOS, so that when the time comes to rebuild the engine (hopefully not for a long time!) then I can do it the way I want. Today's decision is whether to go ahead with Porsche 911 elephant foot valve adjusters (and a set of rocker arms properly machined to allow them to fit). The adjusters are $24 US each though, which is a great big, bitter horse pill to swallow. We'll see!
Have a great Christmas! _________________ 1978 marino yellow Bay Dormobile camper
1969 signal orange Karmann Ghia convertible
1976 martini olive Bay Dormobile camper
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WooleyNelson Samba Member
Joined: July 13, 2012 Posts: 191 Location: Kokomo Indiana
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:48 am Post subject: Re: Saving Emiko: 68 RHD Restoration in New Zealand |
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I hope you know the fan shroud has been modified for the addition of air conditioning. The "coil mounting" area was moved to accommodate the compressor.
You might stash that shroud away in case you ever decide to add A/C.
....and a Merry Christmas to you too!! |
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paul_round Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:31 am Post subject: Re: Saving Emiko: 68 RHD Restoration in New Zealand |
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Interesting that you swapped your Solex for twin 34ICT's
I was thinking of doing just the opposite! purely for originality, but now not so sure. |
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kiwighia68 Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2013 Posts: 2877 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:25 am Post subject: Re: Saving Emiko: 68 RHD Restoration in New Zealand |
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paul_round wrote: |
Interesting that you swapped your Solex for twin 34ICT's
I was thinking of doing just the opposite! purely for originality, but now not so sure. |
Hi Paul, I'm keeping all the orginal pieces and parts for the day I (or any subsequent owner - perish the day!) decide to revert to originality.
In the meantime, the car drives just so much better with the twin Webers. Others have said twin Dellortos (spelling?) are even better.
I have original parts - mirrors, aerial, radio, reverse lights, steering wheel, red taillights, front seats, and now all the carburetor parts and manifolds - all saved to go back on or in.
Have a good Christmas. _________________ Festina lente - hasten slowly
1968 Ghia named Emiko
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kiwighia68 Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2013 Posts: 2877 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:30 am Post subject: Re: Saving Emiko: 68 RHD Restoration in New Zealand |
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WooleyNelson wrote: |
I hope you know the fan shroud has been modified for the addition of air conditioning. The "coil mounting" area was moved to accommodate the compressor.
You might stash that shroud away in case you ever decide to add A/C.
....and a Merry Christmas to you too!! |
That shroud went with the motor to my mate Dean. I might make aircon my 2017 project, but at the moment it's just a Santa wish. (I get terrible hayfever in summer here - and aircon should keep the pollens out.) But the supplier won't sell outside of the US. _________________ Festina lente - hasten slowly
1968 Ghia named Emiko
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