Correct Knecht air filter/oil bath filter for July 1957 engine?

[FunkyOldPatina]

Ok, doing a few searches on here I've found the following info for my engine:

"The big Knecht, domed-top "coffee can" air cleaner (the subject of this thread) replaced the Knecht strap type air cleaner around the start of the 1956 model year. These seem to be commonly found on 1957 and 1958 model year cars."

Question is, does anyone have a part number for the correct Knecht/Mann for my engine please?

I found some pics at wolfburg west:

http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/wired/wired_04_01/wired_04_01.htm

I have a correct 28PCI manual choke carb for it but the more I search the more different versions of filter I see.

If anyone could please help out with Knecht/Mann part numbers/info and pic for a July 57 that'd be great. Thanks in advance.

[EverettB]

The Beetle air cleaner thread says 111 129 611A for the Mann air cleaner.

I don't know if the Knecht is the same part #, it was not mentioned in that thread.
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[FunkyOldPatina]

HI, thanks for your reply and the link.

I've seen a Knecht with a similar part number {113 129 611} but I guess I'll have to go with what looks right visually. It would seem that if it's got 2x spring clips it's a good start.

Thanks.

[EverettB]

[FunkyOldPatina]

Ok thanks Everett, I'll keep on hunting to find a decent one my side of the pond.

[Dave Byron]

This is a Mann filter on our 57. Cant help with the numbers I'm afraid as no longer have the car. I know its correct though as the base was stamped 7/57.

[Mr. Okrasa]

I finished this late '56 1300cc 36hp engine over the weekend with what I believe is the correct air cleaner. It's stamped 4/57 on the underside.
I had concerns as to which air cleaner would be correct since there are so many air cleaners that can fit the carb opening and people would put
anything that "fit" just to keep the bugs, birds and cats from being sucked in....... Cheers!

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[5500]

Don't see a date code on my Knecht, PN 111.129.611B, so not sure if its the original (4/57 build) or came with the replacement 36 hp engine (3/60). Dome top, 2 snap clamps.

[ZENVWDRIVER]

All air cleaners are date coded - on the bottom - z
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[EverettB]

If it's not in the Official Air Cleaner thread let me know so I can add it
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=497250

There were often 2 suppliers for air cleaners during a given year.
Knecht and Mann

Maybe one is dated and one not.
I have not researched that.
I do see 2 mentions of 1957 Mann air cleaners having a date stamp so that may be an indicator.
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[tasb]

The same situation applies to distributors. Most have a date code but it's not hard to come up with one that's not. Could be they got stamped and the stamping machine didn't strike hard enough. I highly doubt not having a clear date stamp would have kicked it off the final assembly line. I don't think a air filter with a 113 prefix would be anywhere near a 1950's part.
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[5500]

My bottom matches the style of Knecht from 58-60, however I have a different top. The pn is clearly visible on the top. Perhaps the top was mismatched when the later engine was swapped prior to my purchasing the car.