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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:04 pm    Post subject: Best distributor to start with for building electronic dual plug Reply with quote

Likely Glenn can answer, but I don't mind putting this up for everyone's education as well.

I am looking to build a distributor, based on an air cooled VW one, using the Nissan Z22 dual plug cap and rotor. Since it will be electronic, and all I need is the core dizzy, I am wondering what model I should start with?

My main concern is being able to have it built/rebuilt with readily available parts - I don't need a specific advance curve or anything at this point.

It is going in an NSU 4 cyl, that uses the same distributor drive. I also don't need the #3 cyl retard.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Best distributor to start with for building electronic dual plug Reply with quote

I would go for the cb manga spork. eazy tuneing.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Best distributor to start with for building electronic dual plug Reply with quote

It looks like a great option - I like CB, it looks like a work alike to the MSD and Pertronix 'big' distributors, and sounds like it has better construction than the normal Chinese 009 dizzys. I hope. My biggest concern is that the dizzy lasts at 8000rpm, and can be refurbished if need be. Also that the fabrication to adapt the other cap and rotor isn't overly difficult.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Best distributor to start with for building electronic dual plug Reply with quote

I would not use a distributor... I would trigger anything other than average/normal ignition with crank fire... And use electronic "black box" to drive wasted spark either coil or plug (cop) or coil near plug (CNP) ...

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Best distributor to start with for building electronic dual plug Reply with quote

I hear ya Dale, and I agree, it would be much more accurate.

However, it's vintage racing and there needs to be a distributor in the hole to look correct. And I'm not going for every last ounce of power, but reliability and durability, so I can get away with a non crank sensor setup I think.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:14 am    Post subject: Re: Best distributor to start with for building electronic dual plug Reply with quote

Stick a dizzy in the hole but still run a hidden crank trigger
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:43 am    Post subject: Re: Best distributor to start with for building electronic dual plug Reply with quote

Rules - I'd rather not cheat on something so obvious and easy to to check on...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:11 am    Post subject: Re: Best distributor to start with for building electronic dual plug Reply with quote

Have you seen this page? http://www.nsu4.nl/english/e4distributors4cil.html
Maybe that would help to see what others are using. Otherwise why not cut and weld the Nissan top onto a Bosch bottom?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:16 am    Post subject: Re: Best distributor to start with for building electronic dual plug Reply with quote

I would go with this and modify it for a VW. NOT CHEAP.

http://www.precisionmatters.biz/twin-plug-ignition.php

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:51 am    Post subject: Re: Best distributor to start with for building electronic dual plug Reply with quote

Thanks - I have seen that, and it gives good info for stock engines.

I will adapt the Nissan top to a VW bottom, just not sure exactly how it will come together yet.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:54 am    Post subject: Re: Best distributor to start with for building electronic dual plug Reply with quote

A lathe to cut the tops off at the correct location above the inner bearing and a TIG welder. Then whatever magical rotor the Nissan uses will need to be adapted. Whether that means machining the rotor to fit the shaft or modifying the shaft to mimic the Nissan. That can also be done with a lathe and TIG.
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