Hello! Log in or Register   |  Help  |  Donate  |  Buy Shirts See all banner ads | Advertise on TheSamba.com  
TheSamba.com
 
93 Eurovan: heater vacuum lines and radiator fan relays help
Page: Previous  1, 2
Forum Index -> Eurovan Share: Facebook Twitter
Reply to topic
Print View
Quick sort: Show newest posts on top | Show oldest posts on top View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
ALIKA T3
Samba Member


Joined: July 30, 2009
Posts: 6360
Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
ALIKA T3 is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ron you are correct about the #3 pin on the relay, I made a mistake.

I'm so happy, I'm finally done with fixing up all the gismo's on that van thanks to guys like you who post their knowledge online. Big mahalo Cool

I let the engine idling until fans kicked in at low speed.

I didn't know there were 3 speeds, there are only 2 tied up to the radiator temp switch . My brain is still hurting from all the diagnostics I've conducted on that engine, so actually I don't really care to understand right now Laughing

As for the vacuum lines, I'm gonna tie that line from the reserve to the booster tee, because from what you described me it doesn't match my set up at the throttle body (I have one nipple only there).

Aloha!
_________________
Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
Syncro transmission upgrade parts in the Classifieds.
Subaru EJ22+UN1 5 speed transmission
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416343
Syncro http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...num+gadget
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
snowsyncro
Samba Member


Joined: January 11, 2009
Posts: 1557
Location: East Preston, Nova Scotia, Canada
snowsyncro is offline 

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ALIKA T3 wrote:
My brain is still hurting from all the diagnostics I've conducted on that engine, so actually I don't really care to understand right now Laughing


Haha...I know what you mean!

ALIKA T3 wrote:
Ron you are correct about the #3 pin on the relay, I made a mistake.

I'm so happy, I'm finally done with fixing up all the gismo's on that van thanks to guys like you who post their knowledge online. Big mahalo Cool

I let the engine idling until fans kicked in at low speed.

I didn't know there were 3 speeds, there are only 2 tied up to the radiator temp switch . My brain is still hurting from all the diagnostics I've conducted on that engine, so actually I don't really care to understand right now Laughing

As for the vacuum lines, I'm gonna tie that line from the reserve to the booster tee, because from what you described me it doesn't match my set up at the throttle body (I have one nipple only there).

Aloha!


Alika, I will check the other vacuum lines today for the brake booster.

That single nipple under the throttle body is the vacuum source. The check valve by the reservoir prevents the vacuum from bleeding away from the reservoir (3balls) when the engine is off (through the two branch lines, the long and the short). The check valve by the brake booster retains vacuum in the brake booster.

I am sure you know this, but timing is critical on those early engines; no ping sensor until 95. I loaned one out, just after setting timing. I may have got it wrong. The van came back on a flat bed, and has not moved since.

You are wise to sort out the broken resistors and making sure the fans are working properly. Mine weren't, I discovered that when I was using (a new to me) 95 EV to tow another disabled van in the yard. Went inside for a few minutes with the engine idling on a hot (for here) day. Came back out and temp was pegged. Engine still ran, but it was weakened and oil pressure was low. A year or two I got stuck in construction traffic picking up a friend at the airport, the kind where are you are moving 2 km/hour, so you can't shut off the engine. Single lane, no where to pull off. I almost made it with heater and fan on full blast-- that one came home on a flat bed too.

Those are the two big flaws -- those damn fan resistors and timing.

There are three fan speeds, but only the first two are regulated by the engine coolant temp sensor I think. Call those Low and High speed ( as you did). The third speed is controlled by the AC -- Ludicrous Speed...


Link


RonC
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
ALIKA T3
Samba Member


Joined: July 30, 2009
Posts: 6360
Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
ALIKA T3 is offline 

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Ron, you da man Cool

Oh, I'm learning the hard way, thus becoming an expert at what I have accomplished so far now!

I timed it at 6 degrees, but the first time I did it with the ignition temp sensor connected and a bad computer.

I started over with another used computer, it was so hard to start!
I reset the computer, the transmission computer, adapted the computer to the new ignition temp sensor but then realized my brand new temp sensor was crap (thanks China).

I stole one from the spare engine, runs better. Then I read I had to do the timing with the temp sensor disconnected. It did a world of difference!!

My TDC marks on camshaft and crankshaft are correct. The front crank pulley mark lines up correctly with the bellhousing mark (wasn't before, because, well, the crank pinion got hacked....)

It's perfecto now, doesn't get hot, has power, shifts perfectly. Besides the crappy plastic interior, all is good Smile
(you don't appear to have a pair of spare dash grills for the speakers and vents for sale, do you?: grey Wink )
_________________
Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
Syncro transmission upgrade parts in the Classifieds.
Subaru EJ22+UN1 5 speed transmission
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416343
Syncro http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...num+gadget
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
snowsyncro
Samba Member


Joined: January 11, 2009
Posts: 1557
Location: East Preston, Nova Scotia, Canada
snowsyncro is offline 

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Alika, you da man.

Show me what you need, if I have it on the 92 it is yours.

No charge.

RonC
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
ALIKA T3
Samba Member


Joined: July 30, 2009
Posts: 6360
Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
ALIKA T3 is offline 

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

snowsyncro wrote:
No Alika, you da man.

Show me what you need, if I have it on the 92 it is yours.

No charge.

RonC


Hi Ron!

I will take a picture later this afternoon of the grills.

If you're bored, you can take a look here of what I have accomplished so far on that van Wink (it's a direct link, no need to be on FB)
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10201851...913791da51

Aloha
_________________
Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
Syncro transmission upgrade parts in the Classifieds.
Subaru EJ22+UN1 5 speed transmission
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416343
Syncro http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...num+gadget
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
ALIKA T3
Samba Member


Joined: July 30, 2009
Posts: 6360
Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
ALIKA T3 is offline 

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ron!

here are the grills I would need:

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

2 VENT GRILLS
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

2 PASSENGER SIDE SPEAKER GRILLS

Aloha!

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

_________________
Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
Syncro transmission upgrade parts in the Classifieds.
Subaru EJ22+UN1 5 speed transmission
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416343
Syncro http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...num+gadget
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
snowsyncro
Samba Member


Joined: January 11, 2009
Posts: 1557
Location: East Preston, Nova Scotia, Canada
snowsyncro is offline 

PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Alika, sorry it took me so long to get to this. These should be the correct grilles for your red Eurovan. Would you call the dash light brown (correct) or grey? Let me know.

RonC

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
ALIKA T3
Samba Member


Joined: July 30, 2009
Posts: 6360
Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
ALIKA T3 is offline 

PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ron!!
So cool thank you!

I'm on travel for 6 weeks, but I'd need a pair of both, grey in color Smile

No rush, but if you want them out , send me a PM with your paypal address, and I'll respond with my mailing address Smile

Aloha!
Alika
_________________
Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
Syncro transmission upgrade parts in the Classifieds.
Subaru EJ22+UN1 5 speed transmission
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416343
Syncro http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...num+gadget
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
snowsyncro
Samba Member


Joined: January 11, 2009
Posts: 1557
Location: East Preston, Nova Scotia, Canada
snowsyncro is offline 

PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No rush here. Let me know when you get back. I want to make sure the colour is right. You are calling them grey, but the photo of your red van looks like a brown dash to me.

RonC
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
ALIKA T3
Samba Member


Joined: July 30, 2009
Posts: 6360
Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
ALIKA T3 is offline 

PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ron!
Definitely gray interior Wink

Ok I'll shoot you an email july 2nd unless you're in LA, we could meet up, ha Wink
Cheers!
_________________
Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
Syncro transmission upgrade parts in the Classifieds.
Subaru EJ22+UN1 5 speed transmission
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416343
Syncro http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...num+gadget
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
ALIKA T3
Samba Member


Joined: July 30, 2009
Posts: 6360
Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
ALIKA T3 is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ron!

I'm back from France and if you're still ok, I'd like to get the Eurovan grills we talked about a couple months ago Smile

Enjoy your week end!

Aloha!!
_________________
Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
Syncro transmission upgrade parts in the Classifieds.
Subaru EJ22+UN1 5 speed transmission
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416343
Syncro http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...num+gadget
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
The Snook
Samba Member


Joined: August 02, 2015
Posts: 18
Location: Arizona
The Snook is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 2:03 pm    Post subject: Re: 93 Eurovan: heater vacuum lines and radiator fan relays help Reply with quote

Bumping this to ask question. Fan on passenger side simple doesn't work in any mode. Turn AC on ...nothing. Fan on drivers side OK. Dumb guy question: so an ideas where I should check first? Relay or resisitor? Its a newish fan so think it in the realy/resistor system. Thanks in Advance Tim
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Joshwa
Samba Member


Joined: November 18, 2015
Posts: 810
Location: North Seattle WA
Joshwa is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:52 pm    Post subject: Re: 93 Eurovan: heater vacuum lines and radiator fan relays help Reply with quote

I would check the strip fuses near the battery. There's one for each fan. Even though its newish, you should still put 12v to it, to make sure it is working.
_________________
93 Weekender TDI conversion (AHU)
93 MV TDI conversion (1Z)
Weekender rear cot
Late model cabin air filter on 93
Euro spec bumper install on 93
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
ALIKA T3
Samba Member


Joined: July 30, 2009
Posts: 6360
Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
ALIKA T3 is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:19 pm    Post subject: Re: 93 Eurovan: heater vacuum lines and radiator fan relays help Reply with quote

There's also a relay for each Wink
_________________
Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
Syncro transmission upgrade parts in the Classifieds.
Subaru EJ22+UN1 5 speed transmission
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416343
Syncro http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...num+gadget
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
The Snook
Samba Member


Joined: August 02, 2015
Posts: 18
Location: Arizona
The Snook is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:18 pm    Post subject: Re: 93 Eurovan: heater vacuum lines and radiator fan relays help Reply with quote

Thanks ......so I have seen the relay 114 related to the fans , any idea what other #? Is this covered in a Bentley schematic? I don't own it yet but think I should. Il jump the 12V first.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
ALIKA T3
Samba Member


Joined: July 30, 2009
Posts: 6360
Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
ALIKA T3 is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:02 am    Post subject: Re: 93 Eurovan: heater vacuum lines and radiator fan relays help Reply with quote

The Snook wrote:
Thanks ......so I have seen the relay 114 related to the fans , any idea what other #? Is this covered in a Bentley schematic? I don't own it yet but think I should. Il jump the 12V first.


Hi!

I never worked w the Bentley and sold my van 2 months ago, but I figured it out last time w a tester.

From what I remember, under the cover below the driver's headlight are the resistors. One for each fan. You have a fuse for each fan like said before by Joshwa.

There should be 2 relay 114 if I remember, so there are basically al in parallele.

Jump the relay socket after checking it has power and see if it runs. My fans were toast, with 2 other fans I rebuilt them since the connector posts were snapped off . What a work!! But in the end, it all worked smoothly, even the electrical coolant pump Smile

I have a bunch of pics here, not much on the radiator fan work that day though.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10201851...913791da51

Aloha!
_________________
Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
Syncro transmission upgrade parts in the Classifieds.
Subaru EJ22+UN1 5 speed transmission
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416343
Syncro http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...num+gadget
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Zeitgeist 13
Samba Member


Joined: March 05, 2009
Posts: 12115
Location: Port Manteau
Zeitgeist 13 is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:58 pm    Post subject: Re: 93 Eurovan: heater vacuum lines and radiator fan relays help Reply with quote

Hey dude, is that an OBD1 to OBD2 adapter on your dash?
_________________
Casey--

'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
y u rune klassik?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Forum Index -> Eurovan All times are Mountain Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Savings Time
Page: Previous  1, 2
Page 2 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

About | Help! | Advertise | Donate | Premium Membership | Privacy/Terms of Use | Contact Us | Site Map
Copyright © 1996-2023, Everett Barnes. All Rights Reserved.
Not affiliated with or sponsored by Volkswagen of America | Forum powered by phpBB
Links to eBay or other vendor sites may be affiliate links where the site receives compensation.