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fjsantana Samba Member
Joined: August 14, 2003 Posts: 10
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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 5:15 pm Post subject: Floorpan rust protection |
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I am in the process of replacing the floorpans and these are my questions:
After I weld the floorpans, what goes first Por15 or seam sealer?
Then I will paint the floorpan, what is the preferred undercoating?
Felix
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nosmr2 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2003 Posts: 182 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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I put seam sealer on first inside and out, then sprayed the underside and inside of the pans with sprayon bedliner. I didn't put any POR-15 on my brand new pans, there wasn't any rust on them to neutralize. If you want some pics or more specific details let me know. _________________ Chuck
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fjsantana Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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OK. Seam sealer goes first.
The sprayon bedliner? is that the same thing as Rhino Lining? Does it add strength? |
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nosmr2 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2003 Posts: 182 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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I am not sure exactly what Rhino liner is. If I recall correctly its a spray on bedliner that auto shops put on. I have never seen it in person, so I couldn't tell you the difference between it and the Dupli Color brand that costs $6 a can. The rhino liner might be a thicker type of covering. I would hope so because it costs more than the spray on stuff. The spray on stuff wouldn't add any strength, it is like hard rubber now that its on. It should deaden the road noise though.
Here are some pics of the seam sealer before I sprayed the pans and POR-15'd the center channel.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/107303.jpg
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/107301.jpg
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/107299.jpg
It looks real sharp now, just need to get a picture of it. _________________ Chuck
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Chillkoot Samba Member
Joined: May 09, 2002 Posts: 556 Location: Big Lake AK
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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water and air..will both penatrate DUPLI COLOR any thing....
and what does air and water do???
I can send you to many a truck web sites that will talk trash about that rusting up the beds of their trucks...There is a reason it is 6$ _________________ While we all hate POH ... Don't be Apathitic to CURRENT owner hacks.
Fiberglass is for boats... Rustoleum is for your lawn mower! |
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BIG MAC Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2003 Posts: 105 Location: Hemet, Ca
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Don't bother using the cheap spray can stuff. Try using the catalyzed urethane bed liner kits. It's going to cost you more but it is definitely much less than rhino. Any paint store should carry it. I prefer using a product made by SEM, called Pro-Tex. |
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fretless Samba Member
Joined: October 07, 2002 Posts: 72 Location: Vista, Ca.
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 9:32 am Post subject: |
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BIG MAC wrote: |
Don't bother using the cheap spray can stuff. Try using the catalyzed urethane bed liner kits. It's going to cost you more but it is definitely much less than rhino. Any paint store should carry it. I prefer using a product made by SEM, called Pro-Tex. |
BIG MAC, what kind of spray gun do you use to spray that stuff on with? what is the texure like? |
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Chillkoot Samba Member
Joined: May 09, 2002 Posts: 556 Location: Big Lake AK
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 9:49 am Post subject: |
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ant undercoating gun will work...
they have them there.. not $$$ _________________ While we all hate POH ... Don't be Apathitic to CURRENT owner hacks.
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DubStyle SBS Hit Squad
Joined: July 26, 2003 Posts: 6250 Location: SBS headquarters: Missery
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2003 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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For the inner pans I used Hammerite. This stuff kick ass. There are various other paints designed specifically for rust prevention. I think your best bet is anything you can spray or brush on. Hammerite smooths itself out as it dries and looks real nice. You can also brush it on thick. _________________ Anthony
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72bug Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2003 Posts: 92 Location: Harrisburg, Pa
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 7:45 am Post subject: |
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Just my 2¢.. Por15 does not need rust for it to work.. A metal surface with a tooth will work just as well. I have tested it with a piece of metal sandblasted.. cleaned.. Painted with por 15.. I then sandblasted it again to see how well it would hold up.. It was a PITA to get off. I was better off using paint stripper to remove it.. Por15 is wonderful stuff if used/applied correctly.
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rgrsapper65 Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2003 Posts: 38
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 9:04 am Post subject: |
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I am in Hawaii and wanted to seal my entire floorpan against the salt air here. I just put new floor quarters in my Thing and then applied POR15. I followed directions and used the marine clean and metal ready. Problem was I did not have enough metal ready to do a good job on the top side of the pans. The bottoms turned out well because the metal ready etched in pretty good, but the top did not do so well. THe POR15 did not adhere very good to the tops because the surface was not rough enough. I think the quarters I used were galvanized so I should have really roughed them up better. make sure you do good surface prep.
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OvalWindowBucket Samba Member
Joined: April 23, 2003 Posts: 694 Location: Reviving my Microbus
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 11:57 am Post subject: |
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what about powder coating? is it better than por-15?
just curious because im getting my floor pans and heater channels replaced and have the opprotunity to get the whole pan powder coated.
peace.
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Shish K Bob Samba Member
Joined: December 25, 2002 Posts: 132 Location: The OC
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 8:02 am Post subject: |
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What is the best method to prep the surface for Por-15? ie what do i need specifically? _________________ you have a cat and i have a dog that climbs trees |
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Chillkoot Samba Member
Joined: May 09, 2002 Posts: 556 Location: Big Lake AK
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 8:17 am Post subject: |
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the stuff they sell in their kit.. _________________ While we all hate POH ... Don't be Apathitic to CURRENT owner hacks.
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Bugs'n'Pugs Samba Member
Joined: July 18, 2004 Posts: 1453 Location: Charleston, South Carolina USA
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:53 pm Post subject: Floor Pan Replacement - Preparation for POR-15 |
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I have removed my old/rusted floor pans and I have some new floor pans from Wolfsburg West.
Should I sand-blast them to bare metal before welding them in?
Should I apply POR-15 before welding or after? _________________ 1978 Super Beetle Convertible (Project)
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dlxcoupe Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2006 Posts: 941
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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Definately take off all the coating that comes on the wolfburg panels.. It is not good at all for a primer undercoat - just protection until the sale. I blasted mine and the stuff was not adheared well at all.
Steps..
1 clean off the black fake primer stuff
2 plug weld in the floors
3 prep the welded areas for paint
4 apply POR15
5 Seam Seal around the bottom lap joints.
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hpw Samba Member
Joined: July 17, 2006 Posts: 3010 Location: memphis
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Bugs'n'Pugs Samba Member
Joined: July 18, 2004 Posts: 1453 Location: Charleston, South Carolina USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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nosmr2 wrote: |
Here are some pics of the seam sealer before I sprayed the pans and POR-15'd the center channel.
It looks real sharp now, just need to get a picture of it.
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