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garyt
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 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:57 am Post subject: Belt dressing |
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| Just a by the way - sometime before on here there was a thread about how to preserve fan belts (!), and I didn't see any real answer, but I recently bought some Gascacinch and lo and behold it also says it is a belt dressing, so there. It works well too. |
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Tim Donahoe
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| Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:40 am Post subject: Re: Belt dressing |
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I don't think the low cost of a new belt is a big deal. When my belts get worn, it's just time to replace.
Besides, Gascacinch is fine for gaskets, but kind of messy for a belt, don't you think?
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| Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:51 am Post subject: Re: Belt dressing |
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and that's the truth, the whole truth. 
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hobbybob517
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| Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:54 pm Post subject: Re: Belt dressing |
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I know most VW people are cheap,
But come on ..... 
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Tim Donahoe
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| Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:04 pm Post subject: Re: Belt dressing |
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Perhaps in Burgundy, belts are very expensive.
Either way, I can see how Gascachinch could help a glazed belt to grip better; but doing so is about as old-school as Gascachinch itself. Belts are just too cheap. That can of Gascacinch here in town is $6.95 before sales tax. A new belt is only about $8.00.
I do have a can in the garage that I use from time to time, but only for one thing--sealing gaskets.
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Cusser
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| Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: Belt dressing |
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On vehicles with 3 drive belts (like my Mazda truck, 2 Frontiers, and daughter's '98 Pathfinder), belt dressing (or a mist of water) can oftentimes be used to determine which belt is squealing.
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garyt
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:02 am Post subject: Re: Belt dressing |
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I think the guy who originally posted ran a fan belt museum or something  , so preserving them, or shelf life was important.
I note that applying it makes the belt look nice and new though, so if you are into concourse type stuff its a must.
I am cheap though, mainly because I have to get all my VW parts by post and sometimes it takes ages and I want to drive my car. |
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garyt
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:04 am Post subject: Re: Belt dressing |
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| Also I've been sent the wrong belt (and speedo cable) a number of times and that is a PITA too. |
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garyt
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| Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:32 am Post subject: Re: Belt dressing |
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| AND finally (!), driving an old car. especially a beetle, is for me being a part of the non throwaway culture, and anything I can do to not have to chuck stuff I will do. |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:19 am Post subject: Re: Belt dressing |
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And getting the most from a belt means getting the tension right for your setup and wear. Too loose, and you prematurely wear the belt and lose efficiency. Too tight, and you stress and fatigue the belt and bearings. A cold engine will yield a different tension than a hot engine.
It's hard to describe exactly the proper tension. But the proper belt tension for your setup is like pornography, you'll know it when you see it. |
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Volks Wagen
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| Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: Belt dressing |
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| AND finally (!), driving an old car. especially a beetle, is for me being a part of the non throwaway culture, and anything I can do to not have to chuck stuff I will do. |
You're right too. I keep the rusted bits of original metal I've cut off my beetle, and all my old oil.
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Zundfolge1432 
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:51 am Post subject: Re: Belt dressing |
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| AND finally (!), driving an old car. especially a beetle, is for me being a part of the non throwaway culture, and anything I can do to not have to chuck stuff I will do. |
You're right too. I keep the rusted bits of original metal I've cut off my beetle, and all my old oil. |
I saw this firsthand last summer I bought a 54 bug that had same owner since 67. I got an entire truck load of spares, guy saved everything including an entire gallon can of points and condensors. Most of it I kept but I shitcanned all the old gaskets and burned bulbs he saved. As for belt dressing I'd like a poppy seed or maybe vinaigrette |
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modok
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:05 am Post subject: Re: Belt dressing |
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I have a can of belt dressing, but I haven't found a use for it yet.
Not much stumps me, but this does.
(Yes I tried it on belts ) |
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Multi69s
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itskyle
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:08 pm Post subject: Re: Belt dressing |
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I have a can of belt dressing, but I haven't found a use for it yet.
Not much stumps me, but this does.
(Yes I tried it on belts ) |
I was told by an old VW nut that he used it to keep the weatherstripping from drying out and cracking.
I was thinking about picking up some of this to keep the boy's belt on his corvair decent (even the spare.)
But people shot me down and called me cheap. Corvair parts are way, way, more hard to find than beetle parts.
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