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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:54 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

That's a cigar ash tray. Mine has it too. Yours appears to be a January 1958 Beetle. Engine and body number correspond to that month. Your VIN is not legible to me.
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I emailed VW corporate "Historical Division" about mine. They replied within hours with some information as to date of manufacture and destination.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

What does the type VW 1/11 mean? I will look Saturday when I pick car up for the serial number. Is it stamped inn the upper corner of the tag?
Appears to be really complete minus floor pans and one rear turn signal.
Thanks for the response. This is a great site.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:14 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

It means that it is a Type 1 Model is most likely 113.

The 3 is obscure but 113 is a LHD sedan
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:09 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

A little digging tonight revealed that most Eoropean beetles in Sweden were registered as Type 1/11 Limousine. And also The first production model of the civilican Volkswagen “sedan” was built in 1945, after the end of WWII. It was based on Porsche’s original “protoype 1″, and so was designated as a “Type 1″ vehicle. Production models that resulted from modification and changes to the original concept of Protoype 1 were also classed as “Type 1″ vehicles, and model/version numbers were added to their type designations to distinguish them. Beetles (Type 11), SuperBeetles (Type 15), Ghias (Type 14), Hebmullers (Type 14A), and Things (formally designated as Kurierwagens – Type 18 ) were all based on the original Type 1 prototype.

So the type 11 merely stood for Beetle
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:45 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Thanks flyboy161, Just found out the VIN for my new beetle.
Number is 1794249 stamped on tunnel and looks to be the same on VIN tag. It is hard to read. I will e-mail the for the history on the car and see what they have to say. it shows just over 54000 on odometer. Last registered in 1972. Been sitting ever since.
Thanks for all your help, what is the book everyone is talking about with production numbers and changes? Can you buy this book?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:05 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Ah, no need to buy. Take a look in the archive and technical tabs up above. There is a wealth of information there including a book called Progressive Refinements. Also there is a VIN listing that shows chassis, motor numbers and VIN numbers by month. It's how I determined your info. A good couple of books you should get are the Idiot Manual by John Muir and a Bentley repair manual for 1958-1960 VW type 11's. I'd be interested in seeing photos when you get your car. I'm just up in middle Georgia if you need anything.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:40 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Will be picking my 58 up Saturday.
Here are a few pictures prior to pickup.
It was last registered in 1972 been sitting a long time.
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Low mileage for a 58?

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Don't know what this roller is but it's on both doors.
Any info?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Awesome!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:19 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Anybody know what these numbers mean.? They are stamped to the right of the engine serial number. Where can I find the chart of changes that I see a lot of people using to find the finer details about their cars? New to using this web site.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:28 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Lots of inspectors on the assembly line stamped and or marked all over the car. Could be an inspectors stamp.

Information, and I mean tons of it, can be found in the Technical and Archive tabs at the top of this page. Here's a link to the techical information directory:
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 12:33 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1565573.jpg
Where is this information from. Can you get it from the site?

Thanks, Picked up my car today. Pics and videos to come.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:00 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

From Progressive refinements. Also in the technical section. Here is the link...click on volume one. It's a large PDFs file

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:27 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Can somone post a pic or a link to a pic of the correct original oil filler cap style for a 3/58 engine?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:07 am    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Early '58 oil cap (From mid February)

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:47 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:41 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

question on 59 steering shaft splines . the steering shaft splines for 59 steering wheel is smaller than a steering shaft spline for a 62 correct? I just brought a 59 steering shaft and its the wrong year . the shaft fits a 62 steering wheel just want to confirm on here that the splines are smaller for he 59 steering wheel. thanks .
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:02 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Finally got around to cleaning out my 58. Was lucky enough to find this little gem.
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Now the question, clean it or leave as is?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:13 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Where is the best place to purchase tar board that is as original as possible?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:42 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

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Where is the best place to purchase tar board that is as original as possible?


For the rear engine compartment right?
If so, then I can tell you that I know of nobody who makes the proper style for our cars. Your best bet would be to put and add up on the samba. I had the right 1/4 portion that was broken in my car that I had to replace. Was lucky enough to, after posting a WTB add, to have a guy email me with one that he pulled from a car he was parting out.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:48 pm    Post subject: Re: '58/'59 Beetle Discussion Reply with quote

Finally got to pull out the back seats, nothing left of the fronts, but I think this will get me a good sample of the color I need to find..

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They used some trimmings it appears to line them.

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