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Bugman_Jeff
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Location: Salem, Oregon. AKA: Meth World
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I think I have a burnt valve. Can you pull the head with it still in the car? I really don't wanna drop the motor out since I don't really have a good place to do that. I hate gravel driveways! 
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TommyBoyGomes
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Location: L.A./Dublin, Irl
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| gravel driveways are the best, no oil stains! |
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Russ Wolfe
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Location: Central Iowa
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A T-3 head can be pulled in the car, but it is a BIG PITA (pain in the ass). If all you have is a gravel driveway, get s sheet of cheap plywood. A 4x8 sheet gives you a big work area. Just watch for the splinters in your butt or you will have a PITA.
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blankmange
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Joined: July 17, 2004
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Location: Bloßer Stahl-preapocalyptic MidCoast
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 7:57 am Post subject: |
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| Russ Wolfe wrote: |
| A T-3 head can be pulled in the car, but it is a BIG PITA (pain in the ass). If all you have is a gravel driveway, get s sheet of cheap plywood. A 4x8 sheet gives you a big work area. Just watch for the splinters in your butt or you will have a PITA. |
or a large piece of thick cardboard -- furniture boxes are usually the best...
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Bugman_Jeff
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Joined: April 15, 2005
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Location: Salem, Oregon. AKA: Meth World
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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| TommyBoyGomes wrote: |
| gravel driveways are the best, no oil stains! |
That is their only benefit that I can see. I've had to work on rigs in gravel so much I'm sick of it really. Hope to have a shop someday.
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| A T-3 head can be pulled in the car, but it is a BIG PITA (pain in the ass). |
Yeah it looks like I'm gonna have to bite the bullet and pull out the motor. Before I do though I'm gonna adjust the valves and check the pushrods. Hopefully I just have a bent pushrod. If it's the head I'm gonna just scream. What's the easiest proceedure for doing the valves in a type 3? I've only done it in my Baja before and it's been a while.
But in all honesty, I've had this car for going on 6 months now, and have only been able to drive it for one month. I'm getting tired of fixing it and am starting to wonder if my money is best spent on my Scout. I got it because I knew it should have been dependable. If I'd wanted to work on a rig this much I'd have bought a chebby. 
This is quickly becoming not fun anymore. 
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Bobnotch
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Location: Kimball, Mi
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What's the easiest proceedure for doing the valves in a type 3? I've only done it in my Baja before and it's been a while.
But in all honesty, I've had this car for going on 6 months now, and have only been able to drive it for one month. I'm getting tired of fixing it and am starting to wonder if my money is best spent on my Scout. I got it because I knew it should have been dependable. If I'd wanted to work on a rig this much I'd have bought a chebby.
This is quickly becoming not fun anymore. |
Well, this is some of the stuff you run into when you own a 34+ year old car that probably hasn't had the regular maintenance that it should have gotten.  The worst cars seem to be those that have sat for 10+ years, because the PO didn't do anything to the car prior to parking it. Those seem to need the most work (brakes, tune up, etc...)
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Mr. Bubblehead
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I have a Missouri driveway (gravel ) and whenever I pull an engine I just use a sheet of plywood. Just recently I replaced the head on my car with the engine still in the vehicle and it wasn't too difficult, removing the tin and exhaust was kind of a PITA though.
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Russ Wolfe
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After 15 years, my wife let me spring for concrete in part of our rural driveway.
I have pulled VW engines, without even a floor jack and have put them back without one too. A 2x6 and a concrete block for a fulcrum, with the car sitting on a stack of tires.
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notchback
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or a large piece of thick cardboard -- furniture boxes are usually the best... |
That's what I've called a "Mexican Creeper" for years. (no offense intended to anyone)
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negawsklov17
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| Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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i'm in the same boat jeff, but i think my rings might be toast. guess i gotta pull the engine also. oh well, it'll be the first time i'll have done it on my car 
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Kenaneu
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| Eh, don't be afraid to pull the motor. It's really not that hard or time consuming, and it's WAY better than doing major jobs UNDER the car. |
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Russ Wolfe
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On a case of beer bet, One day my brother and I pulled an engine and replaced it in a '67 Bug in 15 minutes. That was down the road, burning gas.
T-3's are not that much harder.
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Bobnotch
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Yeah, on my old 76 bug I pulled the engine, replaced the clutch, and put it back in, in about 30 minutes. I've dropped a t-3 with AT engine and re-installed it in 20 minutes, but it still needed some more parts to fire up that the customer hadn't dropped off yet. I've gotten to the point that if it's easier to fix it while it's out, it's coming out. 
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negawsklov17
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hehe, even quicker on this beast:
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Russ Wolfe
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| hehe, even quicker on this beast: |
Nahhh  Baja's are acutally the easiest. Don't even have to jack them up, and you don't have to mess with the roll cage.
I used to use a Baja as an engine test stand. 4 bolts, bing, bang, all done.
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