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karfer67 · Samba Member Joined: January 05, 2005 Posts: 713

i know it is a model of notchback but what does it stand for? i know this is a bomb of a newbie question but i have no clue so feel free to flog me because i don't know. does it mean touring special or something like that? thanks and sorry for the newbie question Embarassed

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Russ Wolfe · Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:19 am Post subject:

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karfer67 · Samba Member Joined: January 05, 2005 Posts: 713

thanks russ i feel smarter now
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SquareD · Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:52 am Post subject:

I always thought that TS meant "TheSamba" Laughing

Russ Wolfe · Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:52 am Post subject:

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Rome · Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:14 pm Post subject:

TS on a VW T3 notchback? I really don't think so. I only recall that emblem ever being used on euro-spec Fastbacks. This is why:

In VW's German lexicon of that era, the "T" stands for ?? Some other German cars use a letter T which depending on the model "could" stand for "touring". BMW had a 2002 touring that did not come over to the USA. It was actually a hatchback. Later, they used the name for the 5 Series station wagon. Obviously neither body style is correct for our 2-door Fastback.

The "S" most likely stands for Schraegheck (can also be spelled without the first "e" but then the "a" would have the two little dots above it, those being an "umlaut") which means "slant rear" or "slant back". Pronounced SHRAYG-heck. I do not think that VW would have considered the "S" to mean "sport" as there was nothing sporty about the car except that maybe some people thought its sloping fastback "looked" sporty.

On T3 sedans, otherwise known as Notchbacks, VW used certain letters like a 1500N or 1500S. The "N" would have been on the 'stripped" model and would have stood for "normal". The "S" not only got the higher power dual-carb engine but a bunch more trim. IMO, the S therefore stood for "Super".

notchback · Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:32 pm Post subject:

I have only seen it on Canadian cars. I was under the assumption that it stood for "Touring Sport".
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FASTBACKDON · Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:20 pm Post subject:

thanks for the info Rome thats why mine are for my fastback

73notch · Samba Member Joined: September 21, 2003 Posts: 667

What does the L stand for? my badge says 1600-L

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Russ Wolfe · Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:57 pm Post subject:

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FASTBACKDON · Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:32 pm Post subject:

i have a vw 1600 tl badge on my car

Mick · Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:44 pm Post subject:

In the UK a few cars were identified with TS letters (not VW's) they were generally regarded as 'Touring Sports' models.
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EverettB · Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:58 pm Post subject:

The TS model typically refers to the 64-65 Canadian "S" model. It is identical to a German S model, with the exception of North American options like sealed beam headlights, a MPH speedometer, etc.

Rome,
Your theory of the "S" meaning sounds good but falls apart when we consider that the Squareback was also a "TS" model.
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Tram · Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:02 pm Post subject:

Rome · Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 6:37 am Post subject:

Alright, boys, this alphabet soup sure is getting confusing. After this post, let's sit down, get some German beer and contemplate more. Smile

The "L" in VW's T3 lexicon, or other Euro-Spec ACVWs and even later water-cooleds would defintely be the word "luxury", or in German, "Luxus". One step up from the stripper model. Like a Golf (euro Rabbit) L. Yes, they had a Golf LS too, which might have been available with either of the 2 gas engines below the GTI. But never a Golf S.

Everett, so with a Squareback having a TS badge, that would once again be a Euro model, which would most likely have the trunklid badge "Variant" (meaning not a "version", but one German word for a station wagon- kinda pronounced vahree-UNT)? "Variant 1500TS"? Then, the S would once again mean "super" since the S means it has the high-compression dual carb engine.

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73notch · Samba Member Joined: September 21, 2003 Posts: 667

can someone tell me what the luxury ones had that the base ones didnt? what kind of trim?

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Rome · Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:22 am Post subject:

"can someone tell me what the luxury ones had that the base ones didnt? what kind of trim"

OK, I'll start. Indeed, much exterior trim was an item that was not on the base ("N") models of the first generation bodies, specifically the thin body side moldings that went from the front fenders all the way to near the taillights, front hood forward edge wide chrome molding/grip, and also rocker panel molding.

I think that the wheels on deluxe models got the thin-slit trim rings, the ones that are trapped under the hubcaps and extend to the wheel edge. Don't know if the wheel itself would be painted black to bring out the trim rings' holes, rather than the two-tone stock wheel paint scheme. We're talking about the 5-bolt rims here.

The real specialists can chime in at this point. Smile


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