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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 7:34 pm    Post subject: Which Muffler is the quietest? Reply with quote

New to the dual port engines, and was wondering which was quieter, single quiet pack, dual quiet pack, or Phat boy style muffler.

I know the stock muffler would be the quietest, but that isn't really an option for me.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Phat Boy would be the loudest. Depending on how big the engine I would go with the dual quiet pack.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a 1776 with Dual 40 Kads. The heads are slightly ported.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dual QP.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there big difference between the phat boy and the dual quiet pack?
Or is it minimal?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a dual QP on my 74 Beetle. I purchased a A1 Phatboy and took it for a 5 mile drive. When I got home I removed the Phatboy and reinstalled the dual QP.

It was LOUD.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks that just about answers my question.

My 67 Bus currently has the Empi Phat boy ( I bought it that way) and it seems really loud. I am wanting to quiet the noise down so I can at least have a conversation while I'm driving.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about back pressure? Any of yall checked to see which is best for that? I know there are a lot of "LOUD" exhaust systems that are pretty restrictive! Case in point... A chambered exhaust... it'll bellow like a raped ape and sing a pretty song, but its no good for effieciency.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what type of sound do the dual quiet packs make?

anything like a mondo?

i'm currently running a mondo and want something with better ground clearance and less boomy.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a 1776 with mild ported and polished heads, Engle 100 cam, dual Kadrons, 7.8:1 compression and an S&S Header with single Quiet Pack. It sounds really good, yet my coworkers still tell me the car is loud...but quiet packs are about as quiet as you can get. Compared to the Phat Boy muffler the QP is much more quiet...kind of a mellow low frequency sound whereas dual QPs have a nice throaty hush when you get on the throttle.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenn, do you still have the phat boy? If you do, are you willing to sell it?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

which is the best dual quiet pack set and will it clear a lowbugget traction bar?

for merged header.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Glenn, do you still have the phat boy? If you do, are you willing to sell it?


Nope... i hit it with some carb cleans so it looked new and sold it. Chuck (aka Growler) bought it.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My "Phatboy" muffer is pretty quiet. At idle with the windows rolled up you cant tell its running. Also when cruising you can have a conversation. Keep in mind that there are different types of mufflers used. Mine was made with a Dynomax by Kymco. Glenn's was a straight through muffler like the ones A-1 and AJ Simms sell.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ran a 1776 with 1.375" header, heater boxes, stock cam and valves, and dual QP's. It was louder than my 2110 with 1.625", 40X35 valves and Webcam 163 with a hideway turbo muffler. The hideaway is the one that has long tubes that tuck the muffler on the right side in the fender, about $60. I used to run a Dynomax on this car and the hideway quieted it way down to the point I can listen to the Sapphire, it is also invisible from the rear of the car.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still like the sound and the look of dual quietpacks. They look balanced from behind. Not like the large lump hanging off to one side.

Maybe they will cost me a few ponies on the street but hey, throw on a stinger at the track were it matters and noise is not an issue.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hophead wrote:
I still like the sound and the look of dual quietpacks. They look balanced from behind. Not like the large lump hanging off to one side.


I like the classic look and and balanced look of the dual QPs.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No offence to anyone who has a phatboy, but I think they look to ricey. Duals look nice.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem with some mufflers and there noise is that the tip exits inside the fender, making it resinate inside the car. I've played with the positioning of the mufflers I've had (cuting and re welding) and having the tip exit outside the fender makes the world of difference. Just my 2 cents, Joe
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't mind spending the money, and if you like the stock appearance.

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