Middle seats

TimmyH79 · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:34 pm Post subject:

Figured people subscribed here might be interested to see some pics of the short, full folding middle seat referenced a few times in this thread finally reunited with a double door bus thanks to the efforts of Gibbs and the good Mr Pickens

They are covered by by the kick panels but it does have the diagonal supports for a '67 - while my bus is a 67 it was technically m-coded for a full length (presumably double flipper). However, this seat is great and I really like how easy it is to get in the back.

Also, it's hard to see but there is release lever for the backrest on both sides

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6sixTinBox · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:44 am Post subject:

With the high price of original middle seats, I find it very interesting that no business sells a reproduction middle seat in the U.S. I have seen the reproduced ones up for sale in the classifieds, but more than a $1k for a frame? That's too rich for me. I wish my bus would have had it's middle seat. Oh well!
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KombiMadness · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:28 pm Post subject:

Chris Paterson · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:33 pm Post subject:

EverettB · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:11 pm Post subject:

KombiMadness · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:31 pm Post subject:

To me the obvious question is why did they decide to only reproduce the 1967 seat and not the earlier versions? Also, if they provided the Chinese manufacturer with a good condition middle seat to reproduce, the Chinese could've made close to an exact copy. This is more than likely what Evam (the Dutch supplier of the repro 6 leg seat advertising here on the Samba) has done.
I still think there must be thousands of bus owners who would pay $500 or more for a good quality copy - much better than not having a middle seat at all. Certainly, $4000 for an original that is rarely advertised, is out of most peoples league.
In my case, I can't even use a Bay middle seat as a substitute because my bus is LHD and Australia is RHD - meaning a Bay seat here in Australia would have the single flip backrest on the wrong side for my LHD bus..... So trying to repair mine is what I need to do. To that end, anyone got some tips on replacing my missing spring section backrest?
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My brother & I on the roof of Dad's Splitty circa 1967 - I'm the half pint with the skinny legs!

BarryL · Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:01 am Post subject:

j.pickens · Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:25 pm Post subject:

6sixTinBox · Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:36 pm Post subject:

I'd definitely pay $500 for a repop seat, even if it is a 67 but not >$1k for an original. With out a doubt out of my league. That's just silly. Rolling Eyes

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Stocknazi · Samba Member Joined: June 18, 2004 Posts: 5150

hitest · Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:09 pm Post subject:

5 years ago I had a chance to buy a complete but needing full resto short middle for my '66 for the sum of one '58 beetle. I valued the car at $600 and couldn't trade fast enough. Those seats as repops are well-justified at $800 just in steel form in my opinion, without shipping.

The silly thing about shipping is, I believe the way to sell those seats is partially knocked down. A carton holding frames stacked (a little like lawn chairs) and another carton carrying the spring packs is an easier way to handle shipping. Sure, final assembly would have to happen stateside- but it is a better way to ensure quality (they could PC the frames and paint the spring packs). Let the buyer be responsible for final assembly- just as we are on the hook for the upholstery anyway.

We all settled in to the idea of WW chrome bumpers costing $1000 bucks for just a beetle. An email barrage to Tony is in order.
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EverettB · Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:30 pm Post subject:

BarryL · Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:07 am Post subject:

Any of the cost is an investment in the bus and should be considered added value dollar-for-dollar as you would have to subtract that if it were missing. It would be different if it were an accessory and not originally equipped.

I personally threw two full length middle seats in unworn condition away in my lifetime. Those thoughts kick my butt every time I reflect on it.

kenshapiro2002 · Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:03 pm Post subject:

6sixTinBox · Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:18 pm Post subject:

Well in the mean time I'm running a 3/4 bay seat I picked for $200. Maybe someone will reproduce them one day?
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kenshapiro2002 · Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:29 pm Post subject:

jason t · Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:57 pm Post subject:

Pic of the original seats in my '67 Kombi. I was fortunate the original owner never used them. Installed them back into the bus in 2013.

KombiMadness · Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:44 am Post subject:

AndysBusAdventures · Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:38 am Post subject:

I am looking for a source to buy middle seat hold downs like the gray ones in the picture. The green ones came with the floor replacement but my 67 has the gray ones. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

KombiMadness · Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 5:34 pm Post subject:

Here's my repaired middle seat from my '59 deluxe. The only thing missing are the 2/3 back rest springs; they weren't salvagable Sad

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My brother & I on the roof of Dad's Splitty circa 1967 - I'm the half pint with the skinny legs!


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