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Z
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| Fronts are definitely the most rewarding, but front AND rears on an SC is almost a convertible! |
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eric m
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| im looking into getting some EIS safari windows for my 63 15 window. they sells 2 different sets. one is a v shape frame and the other just says safari windows . one is white and the other is off white. there is a $75 difference in price too. just not sure which ones to get. |
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Z
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| The v-shaped frame is closer to original, and stronger. I think the v-shape may help them seal a bit better, but that's just a guess. I think they're worth the extra, personally. |
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eric m
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| they are actually the cheaper of the two |
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SCZ9-1-1
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| Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| I just received a set of Creative Engineering polished aluminum safaris and very impressed with them. To me it was worth the $$ and a little bit of a wait. |
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lightice
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| I just received a set of Creative Engineering polished aluminum safaris and very impressed with them. To me it was worth the $$ and a little bit of a wait. |
I got mine in primer finish (black is standard), haven't installed it though.
But the seals that came with the set are disappointing. I bought replacement seals from AH Schofield that were much better looking. |
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KombiMadness
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Location: Sunshine Coast, Australia
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| Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:54 am Post subject: |
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| Z wrote: |
| The v-shaped frame is closer to original, and stronger. I think the v-shape may help them seal a bit better, but that's just a guess. I think they're worth the extra, personally. |
I just bought a set of these EIS safaris, they sound good from the feedback.
I bought the primered ones, not the stainless or powder coated type.
They're coming in a container to Australia so I'll have to wait and see.
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SCZ9-1-1
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| I have some sheet metal repair to do to the bottoms of my windows so I won't be installing them> I'll check the seals. CE says theirs are neoprene and close to the OEM. I'll try em and see how it goes. |
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lightice
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| SCZ9-1-1 wrote: |
| I have some sheet metal repair to do to the bottoms of my windows so I won't be installing them> I'll check the seals. CE says theirs are neoprene and close to the OEM. I'll try em and see how it goes. |
The seals that came with my CE frames are crap TBH.
The one that goes around the sheet metal is not even joined, it's in a single 1 strip and I'm assuming whoever installs it has to somehow join it at the ends.
They also have a kind of metal form inside them to give them rigidity, but makes it difficult getting into the corners. Also the rubber compound is hard.
The Glass to frame seal was very hard, and doesn't give much confidence.
But, the frames and hardware supplied are otherwise top notch. |
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eric m
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| I ended up buying the EIS v profile safaris. Very happy with everything but the seals. Just like everyone stated the seals are 2" too big. I cut them and gave them a try but seem to pop the window out too much. I've used the Wolfgang seals on another bus and was happy with the way they fit. |
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KombiMadness
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| eric m wrote: |
| I ended up buying the EIS v profile safaris. Very happy with everything but the seals. Just like everyone stated the seals are 2" too big. I cut them and gave them a try but seem to pop the window out too much. I've used the Wolfgang seals on another bus and was happy with the way they fit. |
So what seals are you gonna try? The Wolfgang ones? Can you report how they fit and seal with the EIS V profile safaris, please. 
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eric m
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| I ended up buying the EIS v profile safaris. Very happy with everything but the seals. Just like everyone stated the seals are 2" too big. I cut them and gave them a try but seem to pop the window out too much. I've used the Wolfgang seals on another bus and was happy with the way they fit. |
So what seals are you gonna try? The Wolfgang ones? Can you report how they fit and seal with the EIS V profile safaris, please. |
Yes, I'm going to get the Wolfgang seals. I Forgot to put that. I'll report back and post pics when I get them. |
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eric m
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The first three pics are of the EIS seals and the last ones are with the Wolfgang seals . I like the Wolfgang seals much better.
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stevo
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| Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:16 pm Post subject: safari rot |
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i'd like to install these. before painting, wondering whether the rot in the corners must be welded.
the top of the lower channel holding the glass is a concern. underneath the rot is solid.
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cru62
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| Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: safari rot |
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i'd like to install these. before painting, wondering whether the rot in the corners must be welded.
the top of the lower channel holding the glass is a concern. underneath the rot is solid. |
Must is a rather subjective term. How important is it to you? It is a heck of a lot easier to do it now than later. Will the windshield glass fit? Probably. Can you do it yourself? Are you competent fabricator/welder? Does it matter? Probably not. But YOU will know that rot is there and getting worse each time your windshield gets wets. And latching the window without that extra reinforcement will likely bend the latch mount and not seal the frame to the rubber as well as it should. This will likely result in leaky windows. If it is to be a DD, I would suggest fixing it. If you plan to flip it or run it across the BJ stage, then, hell no! Run them like that.
JK. Fix them and forget about them.
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robking
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| I've looked, and Im unsure of the answer. Is safari and stationary glass interchangeable? I have factory safari windows on a 1957 Kombi, and would like have found a set of vw nos sekurit glass, and would like to use it if possible. |
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thom
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| I've looked, and Im unsure of the answer. Is safari and stationary glass interchangeable? I have factory safari windows on a 1957 Kombi, and would like have found a set of vw nos sekurit glass, and would like to use it if possible. |
no; safari glass is smaller
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Malokin Martin
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glass shops can cut glass if you really want to go through the effort and its clean. The easier way is to have someone etch the logo on the repops if it bothers you
BTW: for those wondering about the EIS windows- the pivot pin broke on 3 out of 4 latches after about a week. The screws that hold the window halves are also rusting. Otherwise I'm very happy with the fit 3 months out. |
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thatHawaiianGuy
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:57 pm Post subject: CE rear safari came Unassembled!?!? |
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WTH? I ordered a primered rear safari from CE and I have to put it together? Nowhere on the website does it say anything about that! So I guess I'm supposed to paint it and then what happens when my untrained a$$ breaks the glass??? Another $150 (that they didn't tell me about) to ship another one?!?! BUYERS BEWARE
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cru62
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:36 pm Post subject: Re: CE rear safari came Unassembled!?!? |
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| WTH? I ordered a primered rear safari from CE and I have to put it together? Nowhere on the website does it say anything about that! So I guess I'm supposed to paint it and then what happens when my untrained a$$ breaks the glass??? Another $150 (that they didn't tell me about) to ship another one?!?! BUYERS BEWARE |
I really don't think they are trying to piss you off. They sent it unassembled because the overwhelming majority of people who want to paint the frame WANT it unassembled so that an adequate job can be achieved. Better coverage and a better overall job is possible that way.
And, why would you buy another window? If you break the glass reassembling it (which is doubtful as I think the glass is tempered) any glass shop can cut you another piece. Make a pattern of the piece before you start manhandling the window so that on the off chance it is destroyed, making a new one will be easy.
Or, take the window to a good glass shop and have THEM assemble it. Then, if there is breakage, they are on the hook, not you. And their labor should be a bargain even if it is their shop rate minimum.
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