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daves_ale
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 Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 8:38 am Post subject: AC input |
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As per my other post and tag line, yes I'm redoing my engine.
It's a '78 Westy 2.0L that has an AC setup in it. I know thath the old style compressors robbed the engine of HP, but here in Texas AC is damn near a must. For me, personally, I've lived a long time w/o it. But now I'm 35 and two young girls my needs have changed.
The Westy might be a part time daily driver ( one of my kids has a walker so it would be easier to transport her around than in the NB). Granted, I would like the leg room if I were to remove the under dash AC.
Question: Is there an AC compressor that won't kill my fresh engine and is it worth putting in?
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Sylvester
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 9:22 am Post subject: Yes |
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Ask Gilmore Enterprises in Fla, not sure of the web site. They sell whole units.
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ratwell
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: AC input |
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| daves_ale wrote: |
| Question: Is there an AC compressor that won't kill my fresh engine and is it worth putting in? |
Sanden but you have a lot of your own fabrication to do to mount it up. One type2 listmember has mounted his Sanden UNDER the original tin so there is a perfect air seal in the engine compartment just like the models without a/c.
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daves_ale
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 5:34 am Post subject: Re: AC input |
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| daves_ale wrote: |
| Question: Is there an AC compressor that won't kill my fresh engine and is it worth putting in? |
Sanden but you have a lot of your own fabrication to do to mount it up. One type2 listmember has mounted his Sanden UNDER the original tin so there is a perfect air seal in the engine compartment just like the models without a/c.[/quote
I already have an AC system mounted with all the hardware. Holes have been cut in tin etc... Damn annoying actually. When I took the original compressor outI sealed up the areas with some flashing.
Does the Sanden model mount up like the old versions?
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ratwell
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 10:15 am Post subject: Re: AC input |
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| Does the Sanden model mount up like the old versions? |
BD sells a bracket for it you have to modify and it's different from the stock bracket that mounted the York compressor.
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69westy
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 9:10 pm Post subject: air conditioning |
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I'm installing a kit from Gilmore Enterprises right now as part of a resto-custom I'm doing on my 69 Westy. The kit is really well laid out, straight forward to install and is a good price for what you get. I'm in Louisiana and AC pretty much mandatory. The guy's name is Ed Muha and he's a really good guy to work with. I am actually doing custom dashwork as part of the restoration and he got together vent options for me to work with my project. Ed knows, drives and restores VW's so he's not just a guy selling an air conditioner.
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knoren
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:55 pm Post subject: A/C |
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| I just bought a 78 Westy with an A/C unit installed. I live in NW and don't need A/C. I am going to uninstall. A/C is not currently running, not sure what issue is. Anyone interested in buying this used set up? |
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heronm
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Here is Ed's website. someone gave it too me today actually..
http://www.gilmore-enterprises.com/
hope it helps you.
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WestyPop
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Quite a few adapter plates (to switch to Sanden compressor from York) listed on eBay, for those who already have an A/C system in place, but want to upgrade.
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finchy39
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| Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:45 am Post subject: Factory A/C |
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Hi all, this is my first post so if i screw it up im sorry !
I have just imported to uk a 69 deluxe bus & would like to fit factory A/C into it , i would like the overhead unit with the blower , evaporator , switches etc built in , i don't need the compressor as im fitting a different engine , if anyone has any schematic drawings , manuals or the whole unit they would like to sell please reply or email me at [email protected] . Alan  |
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BusterBrown
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| Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: Factory A/C |
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Hi all, this is my first post so if i screw it up im sorry !
I have just imported to uk a 69 deluxe bus & would like to fit factory A/C into it , i would like the overhead unit with the blower , evaporator , switches etc built in , i don't need the compressor as im fitting a different engine , if anyone has any schematic drawings , manuals or the whole unit they would like to sell please reply or email me at [email protected] . Alan |
Hi Alan, Don't be shy. People here only bite once in awhile.
Just saw this and thought of you...
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=924216
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tom62
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| Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:03 pm Post subject: Re: Factory A/C |
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Hi all, this is my first post so if i screw it up im sorry !
I have just imported to uk a 69 deluxe bus & would like to fit factory A/C into it , i would like the overhead unit with the blower , evaporator , switches etc built in , i don't need the compressor as im fitting a different engine , if anyone has any schematic drawings , manuals or the whole unit they would like to sell please reply or email me at [email protected] . Alan |
here are some pics of my unit on my 68 double cab
front condenser
drier mounting under right front
cover over hoses inside running up to evaporator
compressor mounting
rear condenser mounting
Works good I'm glad to have a working A/C on these 95* days! |
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RatCamper
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tom62, that aircon blower setup is like parts porn, if such a thing exists. Where did you get such a nice looking thing?
I've wanted to do A/C for years but with no references and no ACVWAC (heh) available here it's been a bit of a pipe dream. Most of us don't even have opening quarter windows 
Keep showing the A/C please!
I suppose the $1000 question is can any of these be used with r134a, because unless there's someone with a secret stash of r12, if it needs filling you're boned.
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morymob
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tom62, that aircon blower setup is like parts porn, if such a thing exists. Where did you get such a nice looking thing?
I've wanted to do A/C for years but with no references and no ACVWAC (heh) available here it's been a bit of a pipe dream. Most of us don't even have opening quarter windows
Keep showing the A/C please!
I suppose the $1000 question is can any of these be used with r134a, because unless there's someone with a secret stash of r12, if it needs filling you're boned. |
Just do a search on "RED-TEK" and u will find a wealth of info on this replacement refrig gas. |
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tom62
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tom62, that aircon blower setup is like parts porn, if such a thing exists. Where did you get such a nice looking thing?
I've wanted to do A/C for years but with no references and no ACVWAC (heh) available here it's been a bit of a pipe dream. Most of us don't even have opening quarter windows
Keep showing the A/C please!
I suppose the $1000 question is can any of these be used with r134a, because unless there's someone with a secret stash of r12, if it needs filling you're boned. |
The A/C came on the truck I think it was dealer installed when the truck was bought. Still have the org hoses on it. I had to change a relay and compressor "O" rings to get it going.
As far as the 134 goes I changed the oil in the compressor and charged with 134 works good for me with no complaints.
You can tell when the compressor kicks on but it's not a big loss of power,
I defiantly take the power loss over a hot interior.
You should check with Ed at Gilmore about one of his units, they look good and work great.
IF my compressor fails I'll change it out to a Sanden from Gilmore's |
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