Author |
Message |
DurocShark Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2004 Posts: 6624 Location: Crappy town in a crappy state. But the beach is nearby, so I have that going for me.
|
Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:46 am Post subject: Electric Windshield Washer Pump Installation FAQ |
|
|
Man, what a PITA it was to chase the hose connections. The PO had removed all the hoses, and reaching those nozzles up under the dash sucked. I recommend pulling the dash if you're not a Yoga instructor!
The goal was minimal changes to the existing system, but fully functional.
Crap, forgot pics of the tank. Well, I pulled the hose with the fitting for the compressed air. That little port there makes an excellent place to allow air in when the pump pulls the fluid out and won't leak unless I roll the bus.
Here's the kit I installed:
First thing to do was find a place to mount it. I really wanted to put it down low by the tank but I couldn't find a good way to get a drill and/or a screwdriver in the likely locations. So it's right under the fresh air vents.
This would have been a great location except for the fact that the !#$%#$^ thing turns into an echo chamber. So the pump is louder than I like.
I ran new line from the bottom of the tank to the pump, then the existing line that was still attached to the tank up to the T connector midway between the two nozzles. New line from the T to the nozzles.
The switch was mounted in a hole thoughtfully left for me by the PO. I just had to open it up a bit for the switch.
Man, if I need more switches I'm going to have to actually put my own brackets in or something. I'm out of PO holes.
The spray pattern leaves something to be desired. Is this normal for bus nozzles?
Seems awfully narrow to me.
Anyway, it works quite well. If/when I can afford to replace the washer switch (since the thing shorts out on 2 of the wiper circuits anyway) I'll remove the switch I wired in today. _________________ No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
ratwell Samba Member
Joined: April 26, 2003 Posts: 8717 Location: Victoria, BC
|
Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: Electric Washer Pump Installation |
|
|
DurocShark wrote: |
The spray pattern leaves something to be desired. Is this normal for bus nozzles? |
Pretty much. The tip of the nozzle rusts and turns from a spray into a stream. It was never great to begin with.
The wipers do most of the work. _________________ '78 Westfalia CDN
'76 Doublecab
Read the Baywindow FAQ |
|
Back to top |
|
|
bochintz Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2004 Posts: 9 Location: Vancouver, B.C.
|
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:16 pm Post subject: |
|
|
i was able to drill out the bottom of the tank and fit the pump right tight into the tank fit thetank back in a bango works great
one prob i had earlier was if you don't mount the pump lower or at the same height it would not draw so to speak there ment to pump not suck
so i drilled out the connect for the hose and siliconed it in place man it works great as fro the speay pattern it took me a long time to get it to hit the window in the right spot
peace out _________________ 1979 auto westy, needs rust repair
Don't look here for inspiration!😂 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Bajatacoma Samba Member
Joined: August 05, 2003 Posts: 675 Location: the Great State of Denial
|
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:16 am Post subject: |
|
|
Taking your pump back off and putting rubber washers between it and the metal will help with the noise level.
bochintz is right about most of these pumps being pushers (pushing fluid) not for lifting but if it works I wouldn't worry too much.
You can try blowing air back through the nozzles (reverse of water flow) to get the crud out or you can replace them with newer models. _________________ '78 Westy
Who is the happier man, he who has braved the storm of life and lived or he who has stayed securely on shore and merely existed?
Hunter S Thompson |
|
Back to top |
|
|
TrickyThom Samba Anarchist
Joined: May 03, 2005 Posts: 383 Location: 03031
|
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:40 pm Post subject: Re: Electric Washer Pump Installation |
|
|
DurocShark wrote: |
This would have been a great location except for the fact that the !#$%#$^ thing turns into an echo chamber. So the pump is louder than I like. |
"Free" sample of fatmat. (+$2.99 shipping) Put it under your pump.
http://www.fatmat.com/samples/fatmat.htm _________________ 1977 Riviera |
|
Back to top |
|
|
rccbusfreak Samba Member
Joined: July 18, 2004 Posts: 871 Location: The Sunshine State (get it?)
|
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:49 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I am going to make this easy.
STEP 1. Just hold a spray bottle out the window with your favorite window wash.
Step 2. A few quick pumps or squirts (I know that sounds weird)
Step 3. Turn on wipers _________________ 71 Westfalia
68 Transporter
71 Transporter parts bus (the bus that keeps on giving)
LudwigUSA |
|
Back to top |
|
|
DurocShark Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2004 Posts: 6624 Location: Crappy town in a crappy state. But the beach is nearby, so I have that going for me.
|
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:55 pm Post subject: Re: Electric Washer Pump Installation |
|
|
TrickyThom wrote: |
DurocShark wrote: |
This would have been a great location except for the fact that the !#$%#$^ thing turns into an echo chamber. So the pump is louder than I like. |
"Free" sample of fatmat. (+$2.99 shipping) Put it under your pump.
http://www.fatmat.com/samples/fatmat.htm |
I actually have a couple 12"x12" sheets of dynamat floating around. Great idea! _________________ No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
chabanais Samba Member
Joined: July 27, 2002 Posts: 4866
|
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:09 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I did that install several years ago. But I have an OEM washer button I made...
Take the stock wiper switch/washer button and cut the back off behind the button. Now when you push the switch the stock washer button with that long stick in it will poke out the back... I took a button and Zip tied it onto the washer switch and when I push the button that pokes the button and makes the water squirt out... but looking at the dash it looks stock. _________________ "I spud therefore I yam." |
|
Back to top |
|
|
pb24ss Samba Member
Joined: June 30, 2005 Posts: 1665 Location: sitting around the fire with the bluegrass band - colorado
|
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:01 pm Post subject: |
|
|
rccbusfreak wrote: |
I am going to make this easy.
STEP 1. Just hold a spray bottle out the window with your favorite window wash.
|
not so easy at 70MPH |
|
Back to top |
|
|
grandfatherjim Samba Member
Joined: April 23, 2007 Posts: 172 Location: near Ottawa, Canada
|
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:53 am Post subject: |
|
|
To have my pump lower than the tank I ended up mounting it "outdoors", just behind the front bumper. It is reasonably well protected from the weather, and it's not quite so noisy.
Jim |
|
Back to top |
|
|
obieoberstar Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 1127 Location: Tucson
|
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:26 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I just found this thread on electric washer pumps and thought I would add a bit of information based on my installation this weekend.
I would suggest highly to invest in some new washer nozzles if yours have been inop for some time. It also makes it easier to install the hose onto them before installation.
My pump did not really get 'mounted' anywhere. Just let it rest on the fiberglass insulation under the washer bottle. I've got a westy and there is a layer of fiberglass insulation behind the lower kick panels. No need for messy screws or brackets. Very quiet surrounded by the insulation.
Here's the good part. I've a newer style switch that has the electric contacts already in it. Being that my 79 did not have intermittant wipers, there are no wires in the factory connector to mate up with the ones on the switch. Fortunately I had a wiring harness laying around from a parted out bus. Removed 2 wires from the donor connector and installed them into the open spaces in the Westy's. Ran one to a 12v terminal on the headlight switch and the other to the pump.
I still have a couple of wires left from the donor connector if anyone's interested.
The spray pattern shown in the picture is exactly like mine with the new nozzles.
One of the very best and most useful improvements I've made to my bus over the last 5 years. Should have done it sooner. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Mr'72Special Samba Member
Joined: October 22, 2009 Posts: 78 Location: C'Ville, VA
|
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:39 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Quote: |
I still have a couple of wires left from the donor connector if anyone's interested. |
PM sent.
But on-topic, that looks like a good upgrade. Chabanais, does the '71 model year have the same wiper switch as '72?. I've thought about doing the same thing as you did, taking out the hydraulic valve and replacing it with an electric button instead. Would sure be better than hauling around a dishrag and some windex like I do now . |
|
Back to top |
|
|
chabanais Samba Member
Joined: July 27, 2002 Posts: 4866
|
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:40 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Mine is in the dash not sure. Mine's been installed for years and never had a problem and dash looks totally stock!
Mr'72Special wrote: |
Quote: |
I still have a couple of wires left from the donor connector if anyone's interested. |
PM sent.
But on-topic, that looks like a good upgrade. Chabanais, does the '71 model year have the same wiper switch as '72?. I've thought about doing the same thing as you did, taking out the hydraulic valve and replacing it with an electric button instead. Would sure be better than hauling around a dishrag and some windex like I do now . |
_________________ "I spud therefore I yam." |
|
Back to top |
|
|
timo78 Samba Member
Joined: July 03, 2009 Posts: 931 Location: Overcast and Loving it
|
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:09 pm Post subject: |
|
|
obieoberstar wrote: |
I just found this thread on electric washer pumps and thought I would add a bit of information based on my installation this weekend. |
Excellent topic!
What type /model pump did you use? I too want this modification.
My bus has never seen a drop of wiper fluid with me, Im kinda used to no fluid, but upgrades are nice _________________ > 78Grµn Westfalia `Donkey`
.
It may be bigger than you and it may be bigger than me, but it’s not bigger than you AND me; can you dig it? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
DurocShark Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2004 Posts: 6624 Location: Crappy town in a crappy state. But the beach is nearby, so I have that going for me.
|
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:06 am Post subject: |
|
|
That OP was from 2005. The install was on the Great White Bus, a 73 Hightop conversion from German Delivery Westy. (Was that long enough for ya?)
The pump was transferred 3 years ago to the Guacamole bus, a 78 hard top. I did as was mentioned above, just dropped it in underneath the tank. Works fine and is MUCH less noisy. _________________ No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
pb24ss Samba Member
Joined: June 30, 2005 Posts: 1665 Location: sitting around the fire with the bluegrass band - colorado
|
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:24 am Post subject: |
|
|
Link
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
cuizable Samba Member
Joined: March 16, 2008 Posts: 176
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
pb24ss Samba Member
Joined: June 30, 2005 Posts: 1665 Location: sitting around the fire with the bluegrass band - colorado
|
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:44 am Post subject: |
|
|
cuizable wrote: |
What a powerful pump..Where can I get it? |
I believe it is the trico that DurocShark posted the picture of to start the thread. It's the universal pump that all the local chain auto parts stores sell. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
1977_L63H_P27 Samba Member
Joined: January 17, 2006 Posts: 2345 Location: Bristol, Tennessee
|
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:25 pm Post subject: |
|
|
cuizable wrote: |
What a powerful pump..Where can I get it? |
And do some searching. There's a really cool way to mount that switch in the factory location so it's hidden and works with the wiper lever. It might be in this post. Peace! _________________
busdaddy wrote: |
...and try a few chubby ones until you find one you like.
|
1977 Westfalia P27
you can't spell Volkswagen without SWAG
M-code Plate
Full Moon Bus Club |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Liveonjg Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2006 Posts: 430 Location: Eugene, Oregon
|
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:20 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I installed a small momentary contact switch so operation of the washer remains the same. Keeps everything looking stock.
-John _________________ Keep it acoustic.
77 FI 2L Westfalia - Ripple
77 FI 2L Westfalia - Althea
62 Dual Carb Single Cab - Lou |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|