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Envious
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 Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:20 pm Post subject: Original owner Java Green 64 |
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I just picked up this car for my new son. It's a Java green 64 built in December of 63 with brown chord vinyl and beige and brown door pads.
The car is probably one of the most original cars I've had the pleasure to own. The story goes that the original owner drove the car until 1969 then put it in his garage up until a few years ago when he was getting close to retirement. He was getting the car freshened up to hit the road again when he passed away. I've actually got a copy of the 1969 ownership that they signed off on when they sold the car proving the last time it was plated.
The interior is nearly perfect with the only flaw being the stitching on the seats is starting to let go. I'll have my upholsterer remove the covers and restitch them. The material itself isn't dry or rotted at all.
The 40hp is the correct motor for the car, verified by the old 1969 ownership which listed both chasis and engine numbers. Engine runs like a top after an oil change, new plugs, wires, cap, rotor, valve adjustment. Obviously still 6 volt.
The body has some surface spots but generally very nice.
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79SuperVert
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Wow! Wotta nice Dad!
Wait a minute. "New" son?
As in newborn? |
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Envious
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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Yup. He's just over 2 months old. I enjoy my cars so much that I want my boys to have an aircooled car of their own so I bought my 2 year old a 63 when he was two weeks old and now this 64 for my newest little man.
I just think it would be very cool growing up know that you own a car. Let alone a vintage air cooled VW.
We put my 2 year old behind the steering wheel every year and take a picture instead of a growth chart on the wall. 
I'm going to trade them a diploma for the keys. 
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63 Type 117 L469 Anthracite
64 Type 361 L575 Nutria
64 Porsche 356c
56 Type 113 L227 Strato Silver
52 BSA C11G
59 Heilite Single Wheel Camping Trailer
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84 Vanagon Westfalia
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79SuperVert
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Um, looking to adopt any more kids??? |
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Envious
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| Um, looking to adopt any more kids??? |
It may sound extreme but I'm trying to be realistic. By the time my sons are old enough, there won't be any solid cars for sale at a reasonable price besides late 70's super beetles  Not to offend, just not my thing.
This way, I'm able to ensure they'll have a solid earlier car when the time comes. It's also a good investment. Early 60's car's are reasonably priced but are starting to gain momentum over the past couple of years. Imagine the value of a 1 owner 1964, well preserved, original beetle in 2021 when my newest is 16. By that time, it will have been last plated 52 years earlier.
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64 Type 151
63 Type 117 L469 Anthracite
64 Type 361 L575 Nutria
64 Porsche 356c
56 Type 113 L227 Strato Silver
52 BSA C11G
59 Heilite Single Wheel Camping Trailer
56 Allstate Single Wheel
84 Vanagon Westfalia
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Pennywise
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Just don't mess that beauty up like that green beast in the pic. What is that monstrosity? Hope it is not yours. |
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Envious
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| Just don't mess that beauty up like that green beast in the pic. What is that monstrosity? Hope it is not yours. |
You worry about yours and I'll worry about mine. Seriously, what is wrong with people?
I've got one custom in my collection and I'm proud of it. That the first car I ever built 8 or 9 years ago. I'll never build another custom but I'll never sell that one. Don't like it?? Convince me why I should care? Unless you're saving early 70's cars for stock restorations, I wouldn't worry about what's in my garage.
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64 Porsche 356c
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VW Baron
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What a gorgeous find! I think you're right in that these early 60s Beetles will experience a "renaissance" of sorts, similar to what the Oval and Splits are experiencing today.
I too was lucky enough to get a pretty decent single owner, original, 40hp, 6V, 1963 with accompaning documentation. Unfortunately she's going to need a right channel replacement (along with a few other, more minor odds and ends), but I'm going to try to keep her as original as I can. |
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79SuperVert
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| I'm the father of two girls, 19 and 17. Just don't be too disappointed if your 16 year old son doesn't appreciate the value of the car when you tell him it's his. Kids have a way of turning out different from what you expected or hoped. Not necessarily bad, just different. |
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Envious
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| 79SuperVert wrote: |
| I'm the father of two girls, 19 and 17. Just don't be too disappointed if your 16 year old son doesn't appreciate the value of the car when you tell him it's his. Kids have a way of turning out different from what you expected or hoped. Not necessarily bad, just different. |
I'm prepared for that (even though I've started the brainwashing very early) but at least I'll have a choice. I'd hate for either of them to want one and not be able to find or afford a good one.
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64 Type 361 L575 Nutria
64 Porsche 356c
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52 BSA C11G
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Rusted Rockers
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more props to you...i agree deploma for keys...lets see more of the greenie in the garage????  |
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Rusted Rockers
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| more props to you...i agree deploma for keys...lets see more of the greenie in the garage???? |
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Envious
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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| ...lets see more of the greenie in the garage???? |
The monstrosity..................the horror!!
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My57VintageOval
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Pennywise wrote: |
| Just don't mess that beauty up like that green beast in the pic. What is that monstrosity? Hope it is not yours. |
i personally LOVE that NEON GREEN!!! colored bug. its really sweet. wont see many that color. |
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KantDriveFast
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| Envious wrote: |
| DAN L KENT wrote: |
| ...lets see more of the greenie in the garage???? |
The monstrosity..................the horror!!
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Forget the green one...bring out that yellow vert for some shots!  |
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Envious
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Some older shots a couple of years apart from each other. The Euro bumpers are now gone replaced with rechromed oe with over riders. Correct interior, Albert mirrors. Correct 40hp currently being built.
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6d7vdub
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Envious, always liked your collection, INCLUDING your custom!! Nice new find too....and Java Green....not the most popular or overdone color. NICE!!
<------ Java Green!
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VWGirl
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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definitley a nice find... wish my dad would have saved his fastback for me... i think he does too... but they weren't in to the brainwashing bit... i brought this all upon myself 
and i like the custom for sure! |
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Envious
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Everyone needs one custom car in the collection, it stops them from messing up their original cars. |
Who's side are you on?? 
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| I like the seats, brown cord is neat. |
The interior is awsome. The pictures don't do it justice. The brown cord is very cool and matches the squareback. I just wish I could find somebody that reproduced seat covers in brown/brown cord. ISP has a couple of rolls of it but I think they wanted $150 o $200 per yard off the roll  The material is very good on the beetle but a little brittle in the squareback. I've had the whole squareback restiched and I'll do the same with this car.
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64 Type 151
63 Type 117 L469 Anthracite
64 Type 361 L575 Nutria
64 Porsche 356c
56 Type 113 L227 Strato Silver
52 BSA C11G
59 Heilite Single Wheel Camping Trailer
56 Allstate Single Wheel
84 Vanagon Westfalia
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