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Grifter
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| fredges wrote: |
I'd love to do this myself. I'd like to do drop spindles with drums, as they're cheaper, and I'm never pushing this car very hard, Just cruising.
Sounds like I'll need new inner bearings, too... so I'll probably just buy everything, up to the arms, right? And why not get fresh, good brakelines? Damn, I'm gonna need quite a shopping list... 
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That was my thinking. And once you get the drums working right they do just fine. Yeah you got it on the shopping list, it does tend to snowball!
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1970 Beetle...a work in progress
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| Wow, we have VW's in North Carolina? |
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LeninCas
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| Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:20 am Post subject: Help? |
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I bought a used adjustable beam and already installed it, but now I don't know how to lower it. It is raised quite a bit and I don't like it. I'd like to lower it just a bit so I don't have a harsh ride. I know there are two adjusters in the middle, but I'm not sure how to lower it. I would imagine I just loosen them and push the car down and then tighten them again, but I would like to be sure just so I don't mess something up. Can anyone affirm my speculation, or tell me the correct way to do it, thanks.
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ATHAFA
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 9:27 pm Post subject: . |
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This worked for me. Not a bit of rub, even with aggressive driving.
77 beetle
dropped spindles(lowers 2.5 inch) with drum
one rear outer
The KYB Gas-a-Just front(raises 1 inch) and rear(raises a bit ?)
155/80/15 all four
EMPI Sprintstar
Wheel Width: 5 in.
Backspacing: 3.98 in.
Offset: +25 mm
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Barkovicf91413
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| Hello everyone, im a new aircooled owner ijust bought a 69 beetle and i love it, but i really wanna lower it and i wanna go pretty low can someone please let me know what all i need along with drop spindles and a narrowed adjustable beam |
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pwmcguire
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| Barkovicf91413 wrote: |
| Hello everyone, im a new aircooled owner ijust bought a 69 beetle and i love it, but i really wanna lower it and i wanna go pretty low can someone please let me know what all i need along with drop spindles and a narrowed adjustable beam |
There is a lot of info here, Start reading, this helped me the most.
http://www.christopherwking.com/vehicle-projects/4-narrowed-ball-joint-beam/ |
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Barkovicf91413
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| WOW that looks like alot of work im just gonna buy a beam already done! |
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zodlaw
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Cutman
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| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:45 am Post subject: Monroe shock with more travel |
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I have a 73 Std Beetle, 4" narrowed/adj, lowered bj, and drop spindles. Got it all built and installed in the car. Once I got the beam mounted I had to raise the adjusters to max to get enough for ground clearance and a good look. I must have slightly (unintentionally) rotated an adjuster when welding. Anyways, it sits like I wanted and has some ground clearance. What I ran into was the shocks bottoming out. I bought a new set of stock shocks since I was running drop spindles. I had about 1/2" of downward travel with them before the shocks bottom out. With shocks removed I can bounce the car until the beam hits the ground. Oh well, it is what it is but I needed shocks. Did tons of reading on this sight. The Opel shocks only offer about 1.5" of up travel and down travel lets me bounce on the road. I thought better for the shock to bottom out than keep slamming the road. This is for my specific car based on my assembly of the beam. After time on the phone and with the NAPA guy we came up with a Monroe 37031 (Toyota truck) length 16.375 ext and 10.5 compressed.
https://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=118296
Compared to the VW at 16.75/14.125
https://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=118092
I took a leap that these won't be too stiff and ordered them from rockauto when I found I could get a pair shipped ($30) for less than one at NAPA. I will give an evaluation of the shocks when they get here.
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zodlaw
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Cutman
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zodlaw
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Cutman
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| I didn't get a block with the them. I bought them many years ago... so maybe I did and they disappeared. This was the first beam I narrowed and installed adjusters in. I will make the adj slot a little bigger on the next one I do. |
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ashman40
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| Thanks for the pic. Is there a reason your not using the aluminum block that goes in the middle of that? As for the angle of the adjuster that is what my plan was flat. I will have to get dropped spindles later, along with air shocks. I am also going to add longer sides to the adjuster and slot it another half inch. |
Be careful when using other's adjusters as a guide. The placement of the grub screw that clamps the spring leaves differs in different adjusters, even the ones that look similar from the outside.
Stock grub screw location is downward angled:
Look at these two adjusters and how the grub screw location differs:
In the second adjuster the grub screw is not accessible from the outside of the beam.
Also, you need to realize that just extending the slot in the adjuster will not necessarily give you more adjustment. Before you reach the adjuster limit you will reach the rotational limit of the ball joint. At that point the ball joint is pounded until it fails. Your car will feel like it is bottoming out on the shocks.
I posted this same pic earlier in this discussion thread. I believe the right ball joint in the pic is an aftermarket "lowered joint" damaged by too much rotation.
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zodlaw
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zodlaw
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I have been looking for sometime. Does anyone have any pics of theirs? I am 3 clicks on the inner spline. I just don't want to cut more than I have to. If anyone is running really low in the back can you post some pics of your rear spring plates or what you have done. Thanks! I love this thread...
I just found this but I want to see what others have done. I pulled this off the Vortex of all places... I up loaded to the samba so it stays 
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BeauTrippie
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ripped out the upper torsion bars, 2 inner splines in the rear. done. rides like a damn brick on wheels. But this one is for fun.
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This is a short clip that shows the adjustment advantage that ball joint suspensions have. Both caster and camber can be adjusted based on the position of the caster nut. Notice how the spindle to the far right is affected - and thus your wheel.
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jarmchairpilot
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| Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:32 am Post subject: lowered suspension |
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Howdy,
I recall an article by successfull English road-dirt rally legend Peter Noad,who raced a vwbug with Okrasa engine for years. Funnily he found the best performing setup was to add spacers on the rear hubs,they widen the track,improving stability.Instead of lowering the front,the rear drop(about an inch I think)and stock front height supension results in a slightly "nose-up"look.
Judging by his success turns out maybe the posers that think their "cool-slammed look" are wasting their money,making their bug ride and handle worse than stock. |
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bugninva
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:22 pm Post subject: Re: lowered suspension |
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Judging by his success turns out maybe the posers that think their "cool-slammed look" are wasting their money,making their bug ride and handle worse than stock. |
I think you miss that the point of a "look" is....... well........ how it *looks*...
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GEX has. Just sayin |
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