wheel adapters

Capecodster · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:14 pm Post subject: wheel adapters

Hey,
Has anyone here ever tried bolting on 4x130 stock four lug pattern adapters to make it to 5x205 early style? this way you could keep the disk brake front end and run some cool early style wide 5 patterns. It will move your wheel out about 3/8th of a inch per side. But with a narrowed beam you could put it back to stock width.

Any info?

60DoubleTurd · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:58 pm Post subject:

But with a narrowed beam youd be running a bug set up so you would already have wide 5. The other option, if you want to keep your disc set up is to buy the wide 5 disc kit they sell for a type 3. And if you are going to run wide 5 OG type 3 wheels the offset will be correct so you dont need to go through the hassle of a narowed beam, tie rods, etc.
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jimmynotch · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:37 pm Post subject:

I tried running adapters for 4lug to wide 5 and the didn't work because the adapters hit the calipers. It looked like you would have to grind about 3/8 of an inch off the face of the caliper to make it work and that is just plain sketchy IMHO. The wide 5 kit "they" sell for type 3 will run you between $1400 and $600 depending on the manufacturer.
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60DoubleTurd · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:46 pm Post subject:

I agree with the price but if you look at narrowing the beam and go with a type 1 set up you lose all the ride of a lowered type 3 and might as well just own a bug. No steering dampner, no shock towers, and then you are stuck with a wide 5 bug beam that drives like shit. If you are going to spend the $$ go the right way and do a wide 5 disc.
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topnotch · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:52 am Post subject:

Capecodster · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:44 am Post subject:

Ok, so I own a bug with a ball joint front end. lowered to the ground almost! rides great? no bump steer or anything. Also have owned aton of early type 1 front ends on alot of different bugs and dune buggies.

My notch 1964 isn't really banged hard. it's maybe one or two? at most splines.

It rides hard!!!? and has a ton of bump steer! you better not let go of the wheel and I fear any drops in the road or pot holes!

My type one frontends ride much softer. I have talked to a few people now how have switched over to a type 1 front end setup and love it! even with no shock towers, they claim the ride is great? no bump steer like before.
With a airbag setup, it helps in the shock absorbtion dept. as the bag always has resistance against it.

Never thought about the calipers hiting!

If a link pin front end is used, it can run the CB. wide five disk brake kit. It runs about $600 or so.

blankmange · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:14 pm Post subject:

60DoubleTurd · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:09 pm Post subject:

Ive owned a ton of type 3s which have all been floored from 3 in the front to 5 in the front and they all ride they are on rails. Smooth as hell. You got to run all new shocks, cut out the bump stops in the front, check the steering dampner and check the geometry on your tie rods, steering etc. It will smoke any factory type 1 set up.
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Capecodster · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:24 pm Post subject:

Yeh, maybe the bump stops are still on? I haven't seen if they are still in there. As I have been working on other stuff.
It has all new KYB gas shocks and a new steering stabilizer.

blankmange · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:25 pm Post subject:

jimmynotch · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:36 pm Post subject:

R.Rabbit · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:52 pm Post subject:

60DoubleTurd · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 4:11 pm Post subject:

Those are tight!! Now all I have to do is win the lottery and theyre mine!! Can you imagine the shipping from over there to here being that heavy. Probably another 1000.
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Airkewld · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:52 pm Post subject:

so far, the people who have the BAD Brake set up love them! And we just released the wide five rotor with Wilwood calipers that do not add any track. If you ever want to put a set of Fuch's on, just unbolt the bolt pattern and bolt on the 5x130mm pattern. Easy as that. just a lil info for yall.

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60DoubleTurd · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:07 pm Post subject:

So heres the "brake"down pardon the pun. This was a setup I looked into on their site.

About $1150. I havent used any of their products either but its still under the 1600 and shipping from UK.
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Erik G · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:33 pm Post subject:

ditto, i have had 3 slammed bugs 3 slammed type 3's and 2 slammed buses. and a fat chick bus but i don't like to talk about that.

the slammed t-3's rode way nicer. i'm talking low low low. IMO the only safe way to use a type 1 narrowed beam on a type 3 is with bags and discs. the type 1 torsions are ment for a much lighter car, ditto the stock type 1 brakes. I can't think of any other type of car in the collector car world where brake downgrades are an acceptable means to lowering.

that would be like using the suspension and brakes out of a escort to lower your truck. can you do it? yeah. does it lower the truck significantly? yeah. is it smart?

oh yeah, the wheel adaptors do hit, and yes, the calipers would need to be shaved way too much along with the adaptors
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jimmynotch · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:16 pm Post subject:

so, as i said before.... spend $1400 on German shit or a little less on airkewld's set-up. Either way, disc bakes are definately better if you wanna drive your car every day. I am looking (dreaming) of a Wide 5 front and rear disc setup.
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60DoubleTurd · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:30 pm Post subject:

I have to say the one thing I like about the Aircooled stuff is that you can go from 5x205 to 5x130 on the same disc. Slotted one day and alloys the next. Now thats ballin, switchin rims day by day.
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BSQUARE · Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:21 am Post subject:

or 4 different rims with different stud patterns. Confused

i'm not looking to switch my stuff up often, just some quality equipment. i'm assuming the rear kits made to fit a 68 bug will work on a type 3? CBs race ready kits look pretty good with the reinforced brackets, compared to some with a bent piece of metal to hang the caliper in the right place. i imagine those could bend under hard braking.

Capecodster · Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:59 am Post subject:

So what is the weight difference between the bug, say a split or oval link pin bug a a s-notch 1964?

How much weight difference


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