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jlarsen Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:21 pm Post subject: Rear Corner Plexiglas windows on Barndoor-23's |
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A few questions for the OG Barndoor sages . .
1- Is the Plexiglas insignia burned into the inside or outside of the window?
http://www.barndoor.dk/ pic shows pass. side rear corner window only
2- Is the insignia in the upper left corner on both corner window? (making them interchangable from side to side)
3- Is anyone repro'ing the plexi corners w/the correct insignia stamping?
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NAES Samba Member
Joined: September 10, 2003 Posts: 2120 Location: AREA-52 Southern Killafornia
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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Burned on the outside.
Left and right hand are interchangeable.
Yes, PM me and I'll put you in touch with the best repops that exist. _________________ Barndoor Mafia
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2002 Posts: 1243
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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They are real easy to make just get some plexy and heat it with a propane torch and bend.
My freind made one for his 23 and it only took less than a hour from tracing to install,I think he bent it around a log. |
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j.pickens Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2002 Posts: 9789 Location: Exit 7, New Jersey
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Was that log made out of Limba, Jim?
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BUCIOBATISTI Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2002 Posts: 6956 Location: San Diego, California, USA
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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NAES wrote: |
Burned on the outside.
Left and right hand are interchangeable.
Yes, PM me and I'll put you in touch with the best repops that exist. |
Now "burned on" I'm guessing you would be meaning recessed into the window, correct? I am almost positive that they are RAISED up on the outside of the window. _________________ Please check us out on Instagram at @holygrailgarage
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campingbox Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2000 Posts: 10196 Location: Petaluma, CA
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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I think they are etched on the outside. |
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BUCIOBATISTI Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:14 am Post subject: |
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campingbox wrote: |
I think they are etched on the outside. |
I could be wrong but I still say RAISED on the outside. _________________ Please check us out on Instagram at @holygrailgarage
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Rusting Hulk Samba Member
Joined: August 20, 2002 Posts: 646 Location: Malvern UK
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:03 am Post subject: |
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They are raised on the outside, because the logo appears to have been 'branded' into the perspex, sorry Plexiglas
Mark L has some great repro's _________________ 64 356 C Coupe |
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UZI Platinum FUBU
Joined: February 08, 2002 Posts: 13335 Location: phila-DELFT-ia
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:32 am Post subject: |
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i imagine there is sme "raising" but like simon said, they are "branded" into the plexi, i mean perspex _________________ Extravagant Lifestyle
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Mr. Electric Wizard Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:55 am Post subject: |
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So are the OG ones made of glass or perspex? _________________ "Saying what we think gives us a wider conversational range than saying what we know."
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UZI Platinum FUBU
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 7:25 am Post subject: |
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barndoor corner windows are plexi, later buses are glass. _________________ Extravagant Lifestyle
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Mr. Electric Wizard Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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Dang, I didn't even know Plexiglass was that old.
I always thought that it originated in the '80's _________________ "Saying what we think gives us a wider conversational range than saying what we know."
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UZI Platinum FUBU
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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i don't know for sure but i think it's military technology from WW2 brought to the general public _________________ Extravagant Lifestyle
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Oldnslow Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2003 Posts: 465 Location: Idaho
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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UZI wrote: |
i don't know for sure but i think it's military technology from WW2 brought to the general public |
Your right, look at the canopies on planes like a P-51 Mustang.
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Mr. Electric Wizard Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, so that was some cutting edge shit when it came out on Barndoors, huh? _________________ "Saying what we think gives us a wider conversational range than saying what we know."
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BUCIOBATISTI Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2002 Posts: 6956 Location: San Diego, California, USA
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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UZI wrote: |
barndoor corner windows are plexi, later buses are glass. |
Actually, I think that they may very well have continued on into some of the early post Barndoor Wolfsburg Deluxes. I had a 1956 23 many years ago that had a pair of Plexiglas corner windows on it although I'm not positive that it should have. _________________ Please check us out on Instagram at @holygrailgarage
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Rusting Hulk Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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In Mr Eccles spec book it says it changed from plastic to glass while the buses were still barndoors, chassis 117--- or something like that, the day after mine was made, i dont have the book with me but it was sometime in mid February
Need Lind to confirm with his 'factory changes' book, my bus has one glass, one plexi, the glass was large logo sekurit. Obviously not OG _________________ 64 356 C Coupe |
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RockStock Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 3924 Location: England
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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tonny's www.barndoor.dk says
'All De-Luxe busses had "Plexiglas" rear corner windows until
ch. number 20-116 471'
logo is always on top left of perspex, whether LH or RH piece
gerson lists repros too, i believe ($300) _________________ -StockRocks- |
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Anchovy Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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The "Plexiglas" logo is branded into the outside of the window. The material is displaced a bit so it feels like it is raised.
Plexiglas is the tradename, but the material is acrylic. It was invented by a German pharmacist by the name of Otto Rohm in the early 1930's. "Lucite" is the tradename for acrylic material made by Dupont. The acrylic materials Lucite and Plexiglas are about 8 times more clear than glass. Lexan is a polycarbonate often mistaken for Plexiglas, but it is much softer, and lacks the clarity of Plexiglas, although it is clearer than glass too.
Plexiglas is a thermoplastic elastomer which means that it can be formed by heating it. The logo imprint in the reproductions that Mark L. sold were made by using a wood burning type of branding iron made in the mirror image of the logo. It is difficult to get a nice impression on the curved surface. You will notice on original BD windows that the logo is often incomplete, missing the "as" or part of the "l". Mark worked-out a nice technique to get a complete impression that looks better than most originals.
Plexiglas windows were used widely on 50's cars as the cost of the material was down after WWII. Here is a link that shows the Porsche window. Notice in this reproduction the "Plexiglas" logo is distorted and hazy...it doesn't look like the original stamp.
http://community-2.webtv.net/porschebill/doc/ |
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j.pickens Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Check out the interesting items near the mobil sign at the bottom of that page:
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