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BDubVdub
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| a1steaksauce wrote: | | you can shim your rear to get rid of the camber. |
Where would it have to be shimmed? |
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a1steaksauce
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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it was discussed a few pages back.
as i have not done it myself i'm not the one to advise on the procedure. |
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BDubVdub
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| a1steaksauce wrote: | it was discussed a few pages back.
as i have not done it myself i'm not the one to advise on the procedure. |
I just went from page 160 to here and didn't see anything. I'll do a quick search. Thanks |
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BDubVdub
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Found it.
"Actually, when lowering the rear, you can maintain good camber if you shim on the top bolts between where the spring plate and trailing arm meet." |
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a1steaksauce
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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| BDubVdub wrote: | Found it.
"Actually, when lowering the rear, you can maintain good camber if you shim on the top bolts between where the spring plate and trailing arm meet." |
that's it.
i went with a massive amount of lowering and narrowing on my rear so i cut and repositioned my inner trailing arm mounting point to yield me the same result  |
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BDubVdub
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| a1steaksauce wrote: | | BDubVdub wrote: | Found it.
"Actually, when lowering the rear, you can maintain good camber if you shim on the top bolts between where the spring plate and trailing arm meet." |
that's it.
i went with a massive amount of lowering and narrowing on my rear so i cut and repositioned my inner trailing arm mounting point to yield me the same result |
I was considering doing the same. |
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a1steaksauce
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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the only problem with doing so is that it's a very drastic change.
i'm narrowed 2.5 inches out back with massive frame notches for axle clearance. so to me it wasn't a big deal to simply reposition those inner mounting points as that wasn't more extreme than anything else i had done.
but if you're simply running drop plates out back and everything else is untouched i advise against messing with the inner mounting points and just shimming out the rear to correct the negative camber. |
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BDubVdub
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| a1steaksauce wrote: | the only problem with doing so is that it's a very drastic change.
i'm narrowed 2.5 inches out back with massive frame notches for axle clearance. so to me it wasn't a big deal to simply reposition those inner mounting points as that wasn't more extreme than anything else i had done.
but if you're simply running drop plates out back and everything else is untouched i advise against messing with the inner mounting points and just shimming out the rear to correct the negative camber. |
Cool. Thanks for the advice. I have notched the rear, too. |
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Daverham
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Hey kids.
I've got my Wagens West 2.5 inch drop spindles  . Was thinking of tackling this job this weekend. Just making plans here and I have a wedding I don't want to miss... I've never done much front-end work. How much time should I set aside for doing the spindles?
I have a good selection of tools, jack stands and an impact wrench. Other than that, nothing too fancy.
A tub of wheel bearing grease, a 2-3 hours and I'm good? Looks pretty easy, am I missing something?
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| Daverham wrote: | Hey kids.
I've got my Wagens West 2.5 inch drop spindles . Was thinking of tackling this job this weekend. Just making plans here and I have a wedding I don't want to miss... I've never done much front-end work. How much time should I set aside for doing the spindles?
I have a good selection of tools, jack stands and an impact wrench. Other than that, nothing too fancy.
A tub of wheel bearing grease, a 2-3 hours and I'm good? Looks pretty easy, am I missing something? |
what about me? i bet i could find something to be helpful with 
and saturday is the cruise from Bellevue to leavenworth...you dont wanna miss that....
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galencurrington
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| Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Not unless you need to change out ball joints other than that you should be ok but you never know what might pop up Good luck |
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Daverham
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| Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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Galen: Thanks for the reply. That helps me feel good about this. I'll estimate for about 3 hours, I guess. I've peeked at the ball joints. The boots have some superficial cracking, but aren't ruptured, no leaking grease... does that mean they are OK. Or at least probably OK?
Stuart: Was that an offer to help? You done this before, or just want to drink beer and supervise? I won't be going to the cruise. I'd rather get this lowering done. I'm planning on hitting up some meets/cruises later this summer though.
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Stuartzickefoose
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| Daverham wrote: | Galen: Thanks for the reply. That helps me feel good about this. I'll estimate for about 3 hours, I guess. I've peeked at the ball joints. The boots have some superficial cracking, but aren't ruptured, no leaking grease... does that mean they are OK. Or at least probably OK?
Stuart: Was that an offer to help? You done this before, or just want to drink beer and supervise? I won't be going to the cruise. I'd rather get this lowering done. I'm planning on hitting up some meets/cruises later this summer though. |
beer?
im 19 dude...
i wanna see how its done. i have a basic knowledge...and i am a learning a machine...so i figure i can at least help out. worst case, im good with my hands and can turn the wrench for ya
lemme know if ya want my help...ill be busy saturday though.
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galencurrington
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| you'll just have to use your judgement but if the joint is nice and tight and not loose and the boots are not that bad i would say they are find but it you poke one of them while your doing all of this then you probably have to get new boots you can buy just new boots as long as the joint is nice and tight. good luck. |
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Daverham
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:44 am Post subject: |
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Starting this now! Stoked. Stuart is coming over. Lowering party! PM me if you want to join .
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Stuartzickefoose
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| Daverham wrote: | | Starting this now! Stoked. Stuart is coming over. Lowering party! PM me if you want to join . |
DONE AND DONE! looks fantastic...ignore any pics of me that he posts though
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Daverham
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for your help man. That was priceless. Good times. ^^^ This guy does good work, and he moves fast! I've never met up with a real-life Samba-ite before. Great first experience. Hope to see more of you guys out at some meets/shows this summer.
This took about 4 hours, all told.... no real problems. Needed a tie-rod end remover and my impact wrench was very handy. Other than that, no real "special" tools required.
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Working...
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jibznotjobs
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Either you two willing to help me as soon as i get my spindles? Itd be nice to have someone help whos done this before.. |
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