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wesleykonrad Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2006 Posts: 37 Location: Winnipeg, Canada
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:18 pm Post subject: Westfalia Woodwork refinishing |
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Hi,
Just got a 1979 Westfalia last fall (check out pictures at http://wes-falia.blogspot.com). Woo Hoo!
I am debating weather to take out the woodwork and refinish it to the natural plywood under the veneer. Has anyone done this? I am worried about how it will look. If anyone has done this, I would love to see some pictures. |
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steponmebbbboom Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2004 Posts: 6390
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Homey '71 Samba Member
Joined: April 25, 2005 Posts: 231 Location: Bay Area, CA
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Your interior looks pretty nice as it is. If you really want it lighter, you should plan to re-laminate it. The plywood underneath may be difficult to refinish as the glue from the original laminate may have soaked in to some spots but not others. I also noticed that the wood under a friends late 70's westy has a greenish hue, as though they used poplar as their base material instead of birch like the earlier models...don't quote me on that though. FYI, i had my interior out recently and covered the floor and walls with edead v1 sound deadening material ($100/ 120sq feet on ebay). It makes a big difference, might as well take care of that too if you think your bus is too loud on the highway. |
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westy78 Samba Member
Joined: August 20, 2002 Posts: 2005 Location: Portland OR
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Wesley, welcome to the forum. Eric, A.K.A. EZ Gruv has done exactly what you are debating to do to your cabinets. Personaly I think it looks great. It would especially look good on a Mexico Beige Westy like yours with the brown plaid. Here is a picture of Erics interior. He has better shots somewhere but I couldn't find them. Throw him a PM and I'm sure he'll give you the 411.
You can also find very close matches to the original laminate. I have had some of my cabinet doors and the sink cover relaminated on mine. I used Formica brand #117 Colonial Cherry laminate.
_________________ Jasan C.
'78 Westy
VW Campmobile, it goes on vacation with you. |
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mattg Samba Member
Joined: August 05, 2005 Posts: 86 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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I removed the laminate and then stained the cabinets which worked fine -I used a dark stain that was slightly darker than the orginal color - gave an antique look and some of the areas that were less than perfect turned out nicely and gave the cabinets a little character - I will try to post a few pics. I also modified the main cabinet behind the driver and took out the sink because I do not use it. I then put a piece of nice wood and made a countertop to match the orginal cabinets. It is not orginal now but I have a little more room when camping - also it gave me room to keep my spare tire which I took off the front directy behind the drivers seat - 77 westy 2.0 FI |
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jeremysmithatshawdotca Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2002 Posts: 2530 Location: Edmonton, AB
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Matt, how did you remove the laminate? When I did this, some parts of it were stuck on so well that it peeled up the first layer of plywood as well! If I were to do it again, I'd just peel away the loose bits of veneer, use bondo to level those areas to the remaining veneer, sand it all over, and reveneer it. A lot easier, a lot less time consuming, and it would look just as good.
Jeremy |
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MalibuLX3 Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2005 Posts: 821 Location: Rochester, MI
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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I love this look. It was to do it again, I would do this! _________________ 1978 Westfalia |
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2003 Posts: 34890 Location: The Beach
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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I think we all ought to go over to EZGruv's house and hang out while he makes us all new baltic birch westy furniture.
What happens in vegas stays in vegas you know. |
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EZ Gruv King of Plaid
Joined: December 10, 2002 Posts: 8544 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Randy in Maine wrote: |
I think we all ought to go over to EZGruv's house and hang out while he makes us all new baltic birch westy furniture.
What happens in vegas stays in vegas you know. |
I knew my ears were burning!
Stand by for photos! _________________ Eric
1977 Deluxe Westfalia - 2.0L FI Type IV, Completely Original
Photographer for HotVWs, VolksWorld, AirMighty, VW Camper & Commercial, Hayburner, and more.
My Photography Page. |
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EZ Gruv King of Plaid
Joined: December 10, 2002 Posts: 8544 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Just one from the gallery....more to come. _________________ Eric
1977 Deluxe Westfalia - 2.0L FI Type IV, Completely Original
Photographer for HotVWs, VolksWorld, AirMighty, VW Camper & Commercial, Hayburner, and more.
My Photography Page. |
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EZ Gruv King of Plaid
Joined: December 10, 2002 Posts: 8544 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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jeremysmithatshawdotca wrote: |
Matt, how did you remove the laminate? When I did this, some parts of it were stuck on so well that it peeled up the first layer of plywood as well! If I were to do it again, I'd just peel away the loose bits of veneer, use bondo to level those areas to the remaining veneer, sand it all over, and reveneer it. A lot easier, a lot less time consuming, and it would look just as good.
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Mine peeled off really easily when using a clothes iron. I just went to a thrift shop and bought a $2 iron. Let it heat up, put it on the laminate, leave it in place for 30 seconds, then carefully peel it back (it will be very hot). The iron melts the glue. Most of my veneer came off im complete sheets using this method. I highly reccomend it. WARNING - It is HOT! I still have a burn scar, and it was over 1 year ago.... _________________ Eric
1977 Deluxe Westfalia - 2.0L FI Type IV, Completely Original
Photographer for HotVWs, VolksWorld, AirMighty, VW Camper & Commercial, Hayburner, and more.
My Photography Page. |
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EZ Gruv King of Plaid
Joined: December 10, 2002 Posts: 8544 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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BEFORE:
AFTER:
During:
I call this one "Formica is for Suckas"
So basically, I removed the veneer, sanded down the next layer of plywood. Then stained the plywood with Minwax Pickled Oak, the 2 coats of Minwax Polycrylic clearcoat.
Im not going to say it was easy, but I loved it! I love the way it turned out. _________________ Eric
1977 Deluxe Westfalia - 2.0L FI Type IV, Completely Original
Photographer for HotVWs, VolksWorld, AirMighty, VW Camper & Commercial, Hayburner, and more.
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poptop tom Samba Member
Joined: July 27, 2004 Posts: 1607 Location: The Hoosier State
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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Looks sweet Gruv! What's the big rectangular green plaid
deal in the back? _________________ '76 Deluxe Campmobile |
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EZ Gruv King of Plaid
Joined: December 10, 2002 Posts: 8544 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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That would be my two 15" speakers (in a speakerbox). I like my music loud! _________________ Eric
1977 Deluxe Westfalia - 2.0L FI Type IV, Completely Original
Photographer for HotVWs, VolksWorld, AirMighty, VW Camper & Commercial, Hayburner, and more.
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poptop tom Samba Member
Joined: July 27, 2004 Posts: 1607 Location: The Hoosier State
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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That would be my two 15" speakers (in a speakerbox). I like my music loud! |
Nice use of the plaid on the speaker box!
The checkerboard table top is a nice idea as well. _________________ '76 Deluxe Campmobile |
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wesleykonrad Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2006 Posts: 37 Location: Winnipeg, Canada
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks a ton EZ Gruv
This is definitely the goal I will move towards.
I would love to see mattg's photos as well so I get a sense of how to stain it. |
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wesleykonrad Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2006 Posts: 37 Location: Winnipeg, Canada
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Yes Homey 71, the interior is in fantastic shape. One of the main reasons for the debate has to do with look as the wood is already in great shape. |
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EZ Gruv King of Plaid
Joined: December 10, 2002 Posts: 8544 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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I put up some more interior pics here:
http://members.cox.net/ezgruv/mybus.htm _________________ Eric
1977 Deluxe Westfalia - 2.0L FI Type IV, Completely Original
Photographer for HotVWs, VolksWorld, AirMighty, VW Camper & Commercial, Hayburner, and more.
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jeremysmithatshawdotca Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2002 Posts: 2530 Location: Edmonton, AB
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 11:40 am Post subject: |
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That looks good EZ, and good idea on the iron, I didn't think of that. I peeled mine off with scrapers, and I tried some of the chemical strippers, but they didn't work. After I relevelled the surface that was left, I used birch veneer, (applied with an iron!) but I stained it dark green with an alcohol stain. To balance out the darkness of the furniture I sanded all the interior headliner, and made panels out of birch for the doors, etc., and put a couple coats of clear on them. I also made a new counter top, and a table top with green formica, and a strip of birch around the edge.
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Remo Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2008 Posts: 17
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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Am needing to replace laminate doors covers. Taking off seems straight forward with the 30 second use of an iron.
RE putting the new stuff on, is there a name to laminate colour used for Westies, just so I know what to ask for in the hardware store.
How easy is it to put on, measure up, cut and use a wood glue to fit on? |
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