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LAGrunthaner Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2007 Posts: 5506 Location: 1st Coast
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... |
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Thanks for lesson #1 in Lemmerz wheels. Now for lesson # 2, where these only made for early Split buses like the small hatch vs later ones large hatch Split buses? I'm snowed in today and have not looked at my wheels for that label. Back to class. _________________ American Red Cross Safe And Well:
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Maui Roadsters
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Have you considered simply starting with a nicer bus? I don't know what your skills are, but the race is easier if you can see the finish line. If you are not a runner, don't start off doing a marathon. |
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Alan Brase Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2004 Posts: 4532 Location: Cedar Falls, Iowa
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:20 am Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... |
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LAGrunthaner wrote: |
Thanks for lesson #1 in Lemmerz wheels. Now for lesson # 2, where these only made for early Split buses like the small hatch vs later ones large hatch Split buses? I'm snowed in today and have not looked at my wheels for that label. Back to class. |
Linda, I think they last came with Lemmerz in about 1960. I've bought and sold about 100 bus rims and 1959 was the latest Lemmerz I've seen.
Quite a while before model year 1964 change to the bigger hatch (circa August 15, 1963)
Get a bit of snow? Predictions were over a foot in Boston area!
Al _________________ Al Brase
Projects: 67 sunroof bug, 67 Porsche 912 Targa, 70 Westy
Dec 1955 Single Cab pickup WANT 15" BUS RIMS dated 8/55, thru 12/55
To New owners: 1969 doublecab, 1971 Dormobile
Vanagons:
80 P27 Westy JUL 1979, 3rd oldest known US
83 1.6TD Vanagon, 87 Wolfie Westy daily driver, swap meet home |
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LAGrunthaner Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2007 Posts: 5506 Location: 1st Coast
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:07 am Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... |
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Great history lesson on wheels 69doublecab, so I'm guessing the Lemmerz wheels were made for the 15" not my late model big hatch 14"? I always thought VW made them so this is a great lesson.
Yes I got snow but the Boston area always gets slammed. I'm so glad I don't live there....LOL.
Keep warm kids.
69doublecab wrote: |
LAGrunthaner wrote: |
Thanks for lesson #1 in Lemmerz wheels. Now for lesson # 2, where these only made for early Split buses like the small hatch vs later ones large hatch Split buses? I'm snowed in today and have not looked at my wheels for that label. Back to class. |
Linda, I think they last came with Lemmerz in about 1960. I've bought and sold about 100 bus rims and 1959 was the latest Lemmerz I've seen.
Quite a while before model year 1964 change to the bigger hatch (circa August 15, 1963)
Get a bit of snow? Predictions were over a foot in Boston area!
Al |
_________________ American Red Cross Safe And Well:
https://www.redcross.org/about-us/news-and-events/...bsite.html
Maui Roadsters
www.mauiroadsters.com
http://www.oacdp.org
Lind wrote: |
Have you considered simply starting with a nicer bus? I don't know what your skills are, but the race is easier if you can see the finish line. If you are not a runner, don't start off doing a marathon. |
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silkvw Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2008 Posts: 453 Location: Elgin, TX
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:58 am Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... |
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Another dig out, pull out rescue in TX by a friend of mine.
_________________ '64 single cab Big Bend Bus Bash 2015 '16
'59 camper BBBB 2017 '18 '19 '20 '22 New Mexico
'70 Ghia........Bonneville,........TX Mile,........142 mph......(sold)
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=641871&highlight= |
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crukab Samba Chef
Joined: December 13, 2002 Posts: 6116 Location: Vermont
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:45 am Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... |
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"Reliable Mobile Maid Service" Can you see that rolling up to someones house w/ a couple of "Hotties" in Maid outfits ?? _________________ Tom
My Pops:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=604100&highlight=
I know you will always be with me, rest in peace with no more pain. 8/13/14.....
In the yard right now:
'51 Dodge 5 window truck
'65 Bug
'66 Singlecab
'82 Rabbit Truck Diesel from CALI
'86 Doublecab W/T
'91 Vanagon carat/wolfsbrg.Tiico
'88 Dodge Ram pickup
'11 Jetta Wagon |
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Alan Brase Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2004 Posts: 4532 Location: Cedar Falls, Iowa
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:12 am Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... |
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LAGrunthaner wrote: |
Great history lesson on wheels 69doublecab, so I'm guessing the Lemmerz wheels were made for the 15" not my late model big hatch 14"? I always thought VW made them so this is a great lesson.
Yes I got snow but the Boston area always gets slammed. I'm so glad I don't live there....LOL.
Keep warm kids.
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Oops! I had you a little further north east in my mind!
WRT the wheels manufacturer, I suspect that KPZ (KRONPRINZ) made them, even after 1960.
BTW, as far as I can tell, 1964 -1970 bus rims are all the same. But for date codes.
I don't know why, but manufacturers seem to not make their own rims but rather buy them from vendors, in the US and Germany both.
KPZ, Lemmerz, and SUDRAD seem to be the names I know of. Perhaps others.
Al _________________ Al Brase
Projects: 67 sunroof bug, 67 Porsche 912 Targa, 70 Westy
Dec 1955 Single Cab pickup WANT 15" BUS RIMS dated 8/55, thru 12/55
To New owners: 1969 doublecab, 1971 Dormobile
Vanagons:
80 P27 Westy JUL 1979, 3rd oldest known US
83 1.6TD Vanagon, 87 Wolfie Westy daily driver, swap meet home |
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buck Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2004 Posts: 393
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:31 am Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... |
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Only took me almost 4 years to get back down to where this thing was forgotten about since before I was born. Its a 65 walk through standard. It survived good aside from the driver side a pillar which i ripped out entirely with door before dragging it back home. I also had the m code plate of bus for time since I first found it and managed not to lose it.
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Pinetops Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2007 Posts: 2987
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:18 am Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... |
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Looks good Buck. _________________ "A rolling bus gathers no rust." |
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BUGTHUG Samba's Rented Mule
Joined: April 22, 2007 Posts: 833 Location: KANSAS toto's fire hydrant
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:23 pm Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... |
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This found me! I was filling some bottles at my propane place and the older gentleman ask me what year my bus was. He's my propane delivery guy sometimes, so he has been out to my compound.
He says I have a 66 sitting on a trailer I'm thinking about selling, I need the trailer to use on some other things. I told him I would come out and see it the next day. I was totally surprise to see this.
_________________ I know you would understand what I'm saying if you could just see my HANDS
Even the middle of the week says W T F
1963 15 window bus
1966 VW bug
1966 21 window micro bus
1969 Dune Buggy
1965 VW bug
1974 VW bug
1972 Kelmark, VW drive line
1948 Chevrolet Hearse |
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Braukuche Samba Member
Joined: September 03, 2004 Posts: 10998
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... |
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Guess he doesn't watch th Barret Jackson auctions! _________________ Go Reds! Smash state!
Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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mandraks Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2004 Posts: 7047 Location: Lawrenceville, Ga
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:00 pm Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... |
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BUGTHUG wrote: |
This found me!... I was totally surprise to see this.
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fixed it for you _________________ regards
Uli
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'53 3-Fold Oval, L35 Metallic Blue, looking for a narrow hatch panel |
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cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20271 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:09 pm Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... |
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Better add some extra supports under your PM inbox. _________________ nothing
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ryans65 Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2016 Posts: 1259 Location: Yulee FL
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:33 pm Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... |
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I need to start driving my bus more |
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motofly196 Samba Member
Joined: June 01, 2008 Posts: 1467 Location: Eastern WA
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:04 pm Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... |
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Too bad about the roof, it looks pretty straight other than that. I REALLY like the Bultaco sticker!! |
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EmpiGT Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2005 Posts: 2597
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... |
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torsion housing cut out? great find either way. too bad its a bench. sea blue walkthrough 21 is one of my fav's |
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exotic plants Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 298 Location: God's Zoo
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:36 pm Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... |
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Looks to have had a dealership install camper kit too? _________________ 1956 Beetle - Jungle Green.
Parts needed to complete:
Front driver side fender.
Rear driver side fender.
Cash waiting.
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RHD Notch Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2007 Posts: 1412 Location: Joshua Tree, CA
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:25 pm Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... |
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It looks like it could be used as a seesaw Congrats! _________________
Lind wrote: |
I am at the point where I hardly want to own anything that isn't original paint. |
campingbox wrote: |
I have some other projects I'd like to finish first and I want to drive this bus while I'm working on those to help stay motivated. |
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BUGTHUG Samba's Rented Mule
Joined: April 22, 2007 Posts: 833 Location: KANSAS toto's fire hydrant
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:06 am Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... |
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exotic plants wrote: |
Looks to have had a dealership install camper kit too? |
The farmer I got it from said he let his brother use it back in the late 70's. His brother took it to Florida and got a job at the Everglades State park. He said it was used as his camper for awhile, and he lived somewhere at the camp grounds? I think he added the outlets? _________________ I know you would understand what I'm saying if you could just see my HANDS
Even the middle of the week says W T F
1963 15 window bus
1966 VW bug
1966 21 window micro bus
1969 Dune Buggy
1965 VW bug
1974 VW bug
1972 Kelmark, VW drive line
1948 Chevrolet Hearse |
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60vwnewengland Twin #2
Joined: June 25, 2003 Posts: 1784 Location: District of Columbia & Cape Cod
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... |
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BUGTHUG wrote: |
This found me! I was filling some bottles at my propane place and the older gentleman ask me what year my bus was. He's my propane delivery guy sometimes, so he has been out to my compound.
He says I have a 66 sitting on a trailer I'm thinking about selling, I need the trailer to use on some other things. I told him I would come out and see it the next day. I was totally surprise to see this.
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I hope you got a crazy good deal on it! Awesome find. _________________ 77 Westy - Cape Cod Sage
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rtroy Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2009 Posts: 259 Location: California
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 4:50 pm Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... |
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Hi Everybody,
I'm mostly a Ghia / Porsche kinda guy, but I do own a few type IIs, and yesterday I devoted my day to rescuing this gem from 32 years of sitting in the same spot!
The image above was as we found her, waiting quietly in this "high chaparral desert" location along with a few other VWs. The others were:
+ VW Rabbit-based pickup truck
+ two '70s era Beetles
+ A Bradley GT
+ A weird one-off electric car that had a lot of VW components on it
...And there were two huge trailers, and a big stack of 1960s era left over rockets and related rocket materials the government had left behind when they sold the land... One of the trailers was said to be a portable rocket launching control center, and the white object foreground right in the above image was said to be a "radome" - a dome that goes over a radar antenna - which had formerly been mounted to the top of the trailer...
The person who left the cars had removed all the tires AND lug-bolts to prevent theft, so to salvage the double cab I had to bring with me mounted tires, of course, and also 20 big lug bolts!
Very importantly in such circumstances, especially when performing a rescue way out "in the middle of nowhere": bring a tap for the lug bolt holes and cutting fluid - in fact, bring two (!!) because rust is harder than steel and will dull your tap quickly!
The person who stored the cars was also very concerned about earthquake so they put a huge row of cinder blocks under the car and left exactly zero opportunity to get a jack under the proper lifting points, and since the body was corroded sufficiently to make the jack points unusable, I had to resort to unusual means to get the car back on rubber...
Some highlights of the rescue operation included plant-blocked roads, having to risk scratching the paint driving alongside bushes and shrubbery, having to ford a small river some 12 to 16 feet across and around 2 feet deep with VERY fast flowing water, and also a super sharp switch-back of some 170 degrees or so of turn, very narrow passage with seep cliff-faces and zero room for error. This is where knowing your vehicle, its turning radius, and exactly where the tires are, sure comes in super-handy! Oh, and a towing bar that permits a lock-to-lock turning radius without the body of the towed car touching the tow car!
Since I'm mostly a Ghia / Porsche kinda guy (note the Porsche rims on the double-cab!) here goes "stupid question number one:" Where on earth do I find the vin number on this darned thing? Thanks in advance!
Richard _________________ Richard
Karmann Ghia and Porsche 356 enthusiast
Founder, The Karmann Ghia Club of N. America |
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