iron cross

brody · Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:28 pm Post subject: iron cross

at the kelley park show today, i found a iron cross, probably 1 1/4 square, that was stamped "1914" that a guy had found at a yard sale, probably some military award or something. i thought it would be really cool to hang off my dash, so i asked him how much he wanted for it. he said 425, which seemed a little steep to me. i figured i'd come back later, and try and talk him down.

so flash forward about 2 hours, i went back, didnt see it, so i asked if he still had it. he says "lemme tell you a funny story" which ends in a different guy coming by, and telling him its worth about 6 benjamins. it wasnt in the best shape, so it probably wasnt worth nearly that, but still...
so i guess this is my first lesson in buying things on the spot, rather than waiting.
oh well.
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Herbie3Rivers · Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject:

I bought a similar iron cross, but a reproduction. It's about an inch and a half to 2 inches across. with a plain version that says 1813 on the bottom, and on the other side it says 1938 with the swastika in the middle. Only cost me like $10 plus shipping. While an original would be cool to have, I'd be paranoid about it "Walking off" at a show if I spent $600 for it.
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53 0val · Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 9:01 pm Post subject:

The Iron Cross is the most awarded combat medal in history. 5,500,000 were awarded......(not a typo) Shocked

Fifty-seven companies made the award. In good condition a second class award with ribbon is $125. A first class award is about $250. The WWII versions are the most sought after. The higher orders can go for huge money. The Knignt's cross to the Iron Cross with neck ribbon can go for $6000..with oak leafs, $8000.....with oak leafs and swords, $10,000.....with diamonds, $18000.....with swords and diamonds $25,000. Now for the Big Bucks........depends on whether you have the document that goes with the award. Diamond award.......(paper only) $35,000. Medal and document $50,000. The more famous or infamous the award holder..........name your price. Wink

These prices reflect the current values for the authentic award.
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brody · Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:29 pm Post subject:

yeah i didnt think he would get 600 for it, its not in very good condition.
but its not even like i wanted it for the sake of having a german badge, rel or fake. i just wanted it for my dash. so im not too broken up over it. but now that i've got the idea in my head, maybe i'll start looking around on ebay.
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Aaron · Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:01 pm Post subject:

I'm the "guy" that has the cross...First off I was going to sell it to you for $25 not $425. Maybe you misheard me when you asked "how much". As soon as I said $20 I kinda wished I had said more but you were the first person to ask about it and I hadn't really thought about what I wanted for it. Like I told you I picked it up at a yard sale years ago for like .25 cents. Anyways, the guys from Zarweks are the ones who saw it after you and told me it was worth some money, they thought around $500-$600 but also said they were not sure and that I should figure out what it is before I sell it. I put it in my pocket and brought it home, I never tried to sell it for that amount. I did a little research and as it turns out it's not worth any where near what they thought it might be. From what I found on Ebay it's worth about $60, not $600 so don't feel to bad, you didn't miss out on a real score. It does seem to be real, I guess the magnetic center is the way to tell. I'm going to put it up for auction and see what I can get for it.

johnshenry · Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:51 pm Post subject:

brody · Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:15 pm Post subject:

my bad. the 4 was spossed to be a $
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Lind · Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:40 pm Post subject:

Aaron · Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:25 pm Post subject:

Sorry if I credited the wrong person for giving me the price range, I met alot of people over the weekend. Embarassed

Downtown Brown · Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:18 pm Post subject:

Here in California in 1962 /63 we used to buy Iron crosses at the 5 and dime store . We called them Surfers Crosses and wore them with our horizontal stripe shirts- we were cool. note: those were cheap reproductions the real ones were at the Army/Navy surplus store or from parents who brought them back from overseas in WW2.

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Ragman · Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:28 am Post subject:

This thread is a wealth of misinformation! Laughing

kingkarmann · Samba Member Joined: November 05, 2003 Posts: 4111

I'm toying with the idea of incorporating an iron cross repro badge into a display I use with my car. I certainly will not use it if I think it will offend.
I was doing a bit of research on the Iron Cross medal and came across this old thread.
My concern was/is that the cross may be offensive or mis-interpreted by some. It's Germanic history is interesting and the emblem itself seems to identify with the VW culture. I always think of Snoopy and the Red Baron Confused

So...Do you think most people see the iron cross a connection to the Nazi, Skinhead culture? Or is it just a symbol that speaks to the German connection of our V-dubs?
I suppose just like anything it's all in context.
Thoughtful insight is most appreciated.
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Blue Baron · Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:47 pm Post subject:

I don't think the iron cross will offend anyone.

Now if it were the swastika or the SS lightning bolts, then you run into problems.

Several years ago a group of VW guys showed up at an event wearing SS lightning bolts on their shirts because they thought they looked cool. It put a lot of people on edge.
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kingkarmann · Samba Member Joined: November 05, 2003 Posts: 4111

I sort of derailed this thread Embarassed

Sorry for that.
Anyhow, this is what the Iron Cross looks like with my car display.

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53 0val · Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:29 pm Post subject:

A WW1 Iron Cross will should not bother anyone (Except the French Wink

), but you better stay away from a WW2 Iron cross with swastika.
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kingkarmann · Samba Member Joined: November 05, 2003 Posts: 4111

It may be a bit hard to see the vw badge affixed to the center of the cross. I think it's a replacement emblem for the water cooled switchblade keyfobs
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